Russia's war in Ukraine

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  • 5thDragoons
    Super Moderator
    • Apr 2023
    • 738

    #1

    Russia's war in Ukraine

    Paying for the war is really starting to hurt the Russian economy - inflation is off the meter, banks are limiting withdrawals, and the Ruble is only worth a fraction of an American cent. I found this meme of dissatisfaction on a Russian site. The poster needs to be careful! Talking trash about Putin's policy could easily result in prison time... or an all expenses paid trip to the fighting. Which would not be good - Russian casualties exceed 1.3 million men. SW


    (What 2000 Rubles bought then and now.)
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  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11333

    #2
    amazed it has not stopped by now,

    both sides are hard headed, and corrupt,

    Z has seen his money spigot turned down if not off,


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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10657

      #3
      I'm all for helping the Ukraine within reason but it should have been for giving them our "dated", "best by", munitions that we would be shortly disposing of anyway--not our best of the best. Now, on certain stock, our items are running low and may be one of the reasons Trump has agreed to so many cease fires with Iran.

      I remember when the Russian/Ukraine war first started and we sent them ammo, they were blasting at anything and everything shooting multi-million dollar missiles just to make noise like fireworks and to intimidate the Russians.

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      • 5thDragoons
        Super Moderator
        • Apr 2023
        • 738

        #4
        Trump is right to pressure Europe's funding for Ukraine. Biden gave Z so much cash, he was able to buy his parents a nice estate in Israel. Plus, Ukraine now makes their own drones that surpass anything Russia is making. Speaking of Mr. Auto pen, I hope someday it becomes known how much he got in kick backs from Z. You know it happened!

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        • Allen
          Moderator
          • Sep 2009
          • 10657

          #5
          "you know it happened"

          Yep. This was written around Nov of 2022 by a well known commentator when the corruption involving FTX was discovered and quickly hushed and smoke screened over so these are not MY words.
          "Also in the news (as far as I can tell from cultural osmosis), a major cryptocurrency, FTX, went bust making roughly gazillions of dollars disappear in a digital "poof!" This sudden poofery revealed a funny little scheme that went like this: Democrats sent billions of our tax dollars to Ukraine for "defense" (wink-wink, nudge-nudge). Ukraine then "invested" much of that money in FTX, making FTX's owner stinkingly rich. He, in turn, gave a significant part of this newfound fortune back to the Democrats (his donations were second only to those of George Soros) to help them defeat Republicans in the midterm elections. In other words, it was the traditional Washington circle-jerk kickback scheme but on an especially large and obvious scale."

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          • bruce
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3761

            #6
            Do not know and do not care about right wing or left wing pot boiler accusations concerning either Obama, Bush, Biden or Trump. Do know something about putin's invasion of Ukraine, the leadership given by Zelenskyy and the on the ground results that from day one were a slap in the face of everyone who never considered that Zelenskyy would manage to turn putin's invasion into a russian bear trap. Very much impressed by Zelenskyy's complete refusal to yield to efforts of Trump to pressure him to accept a "deal" that would reward putin with everything he wants in the name of letting Ukraine keep what it has left as long as it accepts vassal status with its NATO membership left drifting somewhere in limbo land. Consider that the number one threat which America must meet head on is putin and his co-criminals efforts to resurrect from the dead their long lamented ussr complete with all the nasty bits that always characterized the ussr and its collection of dependent states. If that means Trump doesn't get to throw trillions of dollars down his self-created rats hole in the Strait of Hormuz, then that is just the way the cookie crumbles. Sincerely. bruce.
            " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11333

              #7
              we put Z in power, and should not have, we, (USA via CIA) interfered a bit too much and while probably not the reason for the war. we have our fingerprints all over it,

              not to mention the bio labs and Burisma (paying Hunter as a board member ) etc etc

              don't know what the true body count for either side it, doubt we will ever know,


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