Fireman's "bayonet"

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  • 5thDragoons
    Super Moderator
    • Apr 2023
    • 715

    #1

    Fireman's "bayonet"

    Rather a strange bayonet without a muzzle ring or slot for the lug. But that's what they called them. Also a pioneer cadet saw back "walking out sidearm". Officer candidates were required to have a sidearm when walking out. No handguns in general use then, so a short sword/cutlass was carried when off duty for the weekend at the academy. Since these were pioneers, the sawback represented the need to cut beams and timbers... just not with this.

    Notice also the muzzle ring but lack of bayonet lug slot... which makes the bayonet lug spring entirely useless. And wouldn't I like to find a junk 71/84 bayonet from which I could "acquire" the spring. It would complete this otherwise quite scarce "sidearm". The same style sidearm but lacking the sawback was for infantry cadets and is fairly common.

    I meant to post images of the fireman's long sawback cutlass I just got, but alien archaeologists have taken my battery charger back to the mother ship. Again. More on that later. Might have to fire up the big Canon for that.

    Now I see it's rather a shabby image, and 2 overall pics were out of focus... because of the very low battery? That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it! More pics later. SW

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  • 5thDragoons
    Super Moderator
    • Apr 2023
    • 715

    #2
    Found my camera charger - more pics later! SW

    Edit: 1st shot shows the 2 for size comparison. Fireman's bayonet is close to the size of a standard infantry bayonet.

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    Also is a shot of the walking out sidearm from the rear showing lack of bayonet lug slot. Rather a curious arrangement. Sw

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    Last edited by 5thDragoons; 05-02-2026, 01:05.

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    • PWC
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1398

      #3
      That's because the attch is milled into the right side of the handle. Goes besixe the bbl, not under it.

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      • 5thDragoons
        Super Moderator
        • Apr 2023
        • 715

        #4
        I have a number of Italian Vetterlis that are the same way - mount on the side. But there's a lug on the barrel for the bayonet and a slot on the bayo that slides over the lug. Muzzle ring completes the securement.

        There's even a side mount Carcano bayonet. It wasn't in service very long, though. SW

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