Anderson "Patton" sword knife on The Rifleman..

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  • ares64
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 3

    #1

    Anderson "Patton" sword knife on The Rifleman..

    Was watching "The Rifleman" on a recent Sat. am. at work. In an episode where some lumbermen were looking for a "renegade" Indian who did some wrong...the Indian was hiding in Lucas' barn and Mark found him, he threatened Mark w/a knife that was clearly a red handled, Anderson, of Glendale CA fighting knife, made from the hilt section of a Patton sword. I really thought that was cool....maybe a little inconsistent w/the time...but very cool. Man they could squeeze a lot of story into a 1/2 hr show back then.
    Last edited by ares64; 12-16-2014, 05:19.
  • fguffey
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 684

    #2
    I was in Peabody, Mass. when the subject of collecting came up as in 'anything new' lately. I filled them in on a few collectables I added. They offered to remove an item from a vault if I had any curiosity. They had a General Patton small sward/stiletto complete with his name and two stars. I assumed he had one made for every promotion.

    F. Guffey

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    • Embalmer
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 932

      #3
      Originally posted by fguffey
      I was in Peabody, Mass.
      my home town

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      • John Sukey
        Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 12224

        #4
        Just a note, Patton didn't invent a sword, he simply copied the British one. The scabbard is identical as is the blade and hand guard. There is a minor difference in the grip

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        • fguffey
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 684

          #5
          Originally posted by Embalmer
          my home town
          I was complaining about the difficulty in finding the town, I was informed it would be easier if I could pronounce it.

          F. Guffey

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          • dave
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 6778

            #6
            Originally posted by John Sukey
            Just a note, Patton didn't invent a sword, he simply copied the British one. The scabbard is identical as is the blade and hand guard. There is a minor difference in the grip
            He copied the French model and their method of using a sword on horse back. The US Cav. was trained to slash, thus the curved blade, while the French had a straight blade, held it straight like a lance and stabbed. He changed the US Cav.'s practice and was one of the top fencers in the world. Competed in Olympics and finished 3-4th, near the top. First US Officer to be named 'Master of the Sword'.
            You can never go home again.

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            • fguffey
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 684

              #7
              รวมสุดยอด สล็อตเว็บตรง ไม่ผ่านเอเย่นต์ ระบบอัปเดตใหม่ล่าสุดปี 2026 เล่นง่าย แตกบ่อย รองรับวอเลท ฝากถอนไว ถอนได้จริงไม่มีอั้น


              The small knife/sword/saber they removed from the safe was unlike any knife/saber/sword I have ever seen, it was unique and it was different.

              F. Guffey

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              • John Sukey
                Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                • Aug 2009
                • 12224

                #8
                Originally posted by dave
                He copied the French model and their method of using a sword on horse back. The US Cav. was trained to slash, thus the curved blade, while the French had a straight blade, held it straight like a lance and stabbed. He changed the US Cav.'s practice and was one of the top fencers in the world. Competed in Olympics and finished 3-4th, near the top. First US Officer to be named 'Master of the Sword'.
                If Patton copied the french sword, why does the blade on mine have a "broad arrow" stamp?

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                • fguffey
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 684

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fguffey
                  They offered to remove an item from a vault if I had any curiosity. They had a General Patton small sword/stiletto complete with his name and two stars.

                  F. Guffey
                  General Patton's driver called it a stick.

                  F. Guffey
                  Last edited by fguffey; 08-02-2016, 07:45.

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                  • PhillipM
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5937

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fguffey
                    I was in Peabody, Mass. when the subject of collecting came up as in 'anything new' lately. I filled them in on a few collectables I added. They offered to remove an item from a vault if I had any curiosity. They had a General Patton small sward/stiletto complete with his name and two stars. I assumed he had one made for every promotion.

                    F. Guffey
                    I looked up Patton's promotions once. Between his regular army promotions and his army of the United states promotions, he could have had a bunch of swords made.
                    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                    • fguffey
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 684

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PhillipM
                      I looked up Patton's promotions once. Between his regular army promotions and his army of the United states promotions, he could have had a bunch of swords made.
                      They only had one, Patton's driver called the one he was carrying a stick when Patton wore 3 stares.

                      F. Guffey
                      Last edited by fguffey; 08-04-2016, 03:07.

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                      • Fred
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 4977

                        #12
                        Originally posted by John Sukey
                        Just a note, Patton didn't invent a sword, he simply copied the British one. The scabbard is identical as is the blade and hand guard. There is a minor difference in the grip
                        Essentially, the two swords are similar. However I can see that the Patton sword is a bit heavier and wider. The scabbard is sturdier too. I think that the 1913 (Patton) sword would be my preference to use over the British 1908 sword had I to choose one for battle.



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                        • John Sukey
                          Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12224

                          #13
                          Of course the machine gun made both the sword and the cavalry obsolete except for scouting purposes.
                          There was ONE US cavalry charge in WW1. They got halfway to the German lines only because the germans couldn't believe what they were seeing!

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                          • Fred
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4977

                            #14
                            I think there was also a charge of Philipine horse cavalry against the Japanese near a peninsula where the Japanese came ashore.

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                            • fguffey
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 684

                              #15
                              Originally posted by fguffey
                              They only had one, Patton's driver called the one he was carrying a stick when Patton wore 3 stares.

                              F. Guffey
                              And when was the last time Patton was seen carrying a sword?

                              F. Guffey

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