rare dates on RIA and SA bayonets

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  • edpm3
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 190

    #16
    Can't get a picture right now, but I have an RIA dated 1913, SN 237925 and an SA dated 1913 SN 547889. I can send a photo when I get a chance, but not right away.
    Last edited by edpm3; 02-01-2011, 10:48.

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    • ihc53
      Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 43

      #17
      Picked this 1905 SA serial no. 37222 a few years ago. Blade looked as if someone wire brushed it, so it was far from collectible.
      I think I gave $50 bucks. Had it reparked and replaced the grips (it had none). The scabbard came with it as well.


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      • Doug Douglass
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2264

        #18
        I have a 1906 SA bright blade #4139 in a RIA 1907 Krag hanger scabbard which is the earliest I have ever heard of.

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        • mike2325

          #19
          S A 1910 M1 bayonet with metal and leather sheath

          I got this knife after my grandfather passed away. I am trying to get info and value of this knife set.

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          • Johnny in Texas
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 2201

            #20
            SA 1906 polished with odd scabbard
            Attached Files
            Last edited by Johnny in Texas; 03-20-2011, 09:40.

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            • Fred Pillot
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 448

              #21
              data for 5MF, 1912 RIA with S/N

              my 1912 clip point
              Attached Files
              Fred Pillot
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              1876

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              • RCS
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2180

                #22
                SA 1913 bayonet

                Here are photos of a SA 1913 bayonet

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                • 5MadFarmers
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2815

                  #23
                  Originally posted by edpm3
                  Can't get a picture right now, but I have an RIA dated 1913, SN 237925 and an SA dated 1913 SN 547889. I can send a photo when I get a chance, but not right away.
                  Pics would be good as that's a border mover. Thank you all for helping. I've processed the unprocessed ones I have. Updated table:

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                  Springfield
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                  1906: 848-191848
                  1907: 193367-241238
                  1908: 243450-356683
                  1909: 361603-432574
                  1910: 435784-466305
                  1911: 474325-500681
                  1912: 510138-546577
                  1913: 550125-582544
                  1914: 585087-608876
                  1915: 612212-631695
                  1916: 636229-648575
                  1917: 680384-758820
                  1918: 779916-1040319
                  1919: 1064286-1124796
                  1920: 1128795-1166024
                  1921: 1180376-1187249
                  1922: 1193795

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                  Rock Island
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                  1906: 82605
                  1907: 90687-117425
                  1908: 120818-138171
                  1909: 139458-160668
                  1910: 172896-189880
                  1911: 196333-216900
                  1912: 218451-233263
                  1913: 235734-241258
                  1914:
                  1915:
                  1916:
                  1917: 253700-302413
                  1918: 303670-418103
                  1919: 390139-428246

                  That overlap in 1918/1919 RIA is real as it's based on pictures of the dates and serials.

                  Mind you I'm not really a bayonet collector. I have production reports so I want to compare those against known example ranges. I did that once already and it didn't come out. Even accounting for the fact that they made bayonets in spare parts format. So I'm going to slowly tighten up those ranges. Given it's not the main work I do I'm suckingly inconsistent on doing it. In a week or two I'll post the ranges I have for the 1905[1] hospital corps knives and the 1909 and 1910 bolos.

                  [1] I'm aware that examples exist dated 1904 but the original blue print clearly states they're model of 1905.

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                  • noslack327
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 582

                    #24
                    I have RIA 1910 # 177786 exc condition.

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                    • Rick the Librarian
                      Super Moderator
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6700

                      #25
                      Here's mine - a 1908 SA, 1910 SA and a 1907 RIA.



                      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                      --C.S. Lewis

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                      • Tom Doniphon
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 526

                        #26
                        Revise your Springfield 1921 numbers. I have an SA 1921 dated bayonet with serial number 1189328. However, it has been modified to an M1.

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                        • Rick the Librarian
                          Super Moderator
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6700

                          #27
                          5Madfarmers:

                          I had (but sold) an SA 1913 - #562887. I don't have a "post-able" picture, but I can get one, if needed.
                          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                          --C.S. Lewis

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                          • EricR
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 13

                            #28
                            1911 SA SN497904 and 1917 RIA SN258698




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                            • Col. Colt
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 928

                              #29
                              Not a range changer, but I'll give you a stat on one I have personal knowledge of, anyway. RIA 1917, 284209 - bright blade with almost smooth wood grips, no scabbard. CC
                              Colt, Glock and Remington factory trained LE Armorer
                              LE Trained Firearms Instructor

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                              • SKIPH
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 103

                                #30
                                Just for fun, checked out my M1905's. I believe I have a range changer. I have a near mint RIA 1908 s/n 120726 it's in a near mint early M1905 "short" throat scabbard dtd 1906 RIA. Pulled out the bayonet to double check, it's legit. My seven others fit into the ranges for their appropriate years. I'm sorry, but do not have a functioning camera to show proof.

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