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"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain -
Yes, I've ben looking at them - especially for the repro lower butt swivel. Thanks!"We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
--C.S. LewisComment
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Just the other day I saw Charleton Heston with the USMC at Peking. Paused the footage showing one of the rifles. Held up the Navy Lee and compared to what I was seeing on the screen. The gun on the screen had a volley sight. The Navy Lee didn't. It hit me kind of sudden like: "I bought the wrong gun." Clearly the Marines had Long Lee rifles at Peking. Ergo that photo you've included must be a photoshop job Ray.
Looks around. "Nope." Don't have one of them.
Looks around again. "Nope." Don't have one of them.
Looks at Ray's cleaning thong thing. "Nope, can't remember getting one of them."
Yup, that I've got.
They are interesting rifles. Have a Navy and another barrelled action. Some assembly required. Batteries and other small parts not included.
Nice rifle Rick. I'd not shoot it either. Navy cartridge was 2,550 fps. "Hardened lead bullet, having a copper jacket plated with tin."Comment
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I don't know if I'd shoot one or not... but I'd sure love to have one!
I wonder if there are any reported failures of the rifle during the short period that it was in service?"I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San PabloComment
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"I bought the wrong gun." Clearly the Marines had Long Lee rifles at Peking. Ergo that photo you've included must be a photoshop job Ray"
Darn how could I have been so easily deceived. Lol,
P.S. Nice rifle Ric, RayLast edited by rayg; 10-01-2016, 05:25.Comment
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Speaking of slings, in addition to the Winchester made 95 sling on my rifle, which is I'd as being made by Winchester by the star proof that was made for the 95 Lee and 95 Winchester lever rifles. I have another sling that was made for the large order of Russian 95 Winchesters. It apparently was contracted out by Winchester as it is not as well made as the Winchester one and carries no Winchester proof star and has lesser quality stitching. It also carries the later added patent stamps. The Russian sling is about as scarce, or maybe even more, then the 95 Lee one on my rifle as most went to Russia with the contracted rifles. Just want to add that both slings are very scarce and of course expensive. One of the gun dealers had a couple of slings like my Lee one in their catalog years ago, which by the way were sold for over $2,000 each. But if you keep your eyes open, you might find one a lot cheaper, still not real cheap, like I did, as they are not common and most people/dealers don't recognize what they are or their value. For example I traded a Japanese sling for the Russian one, Ray
Winchester 95 sling-1.JPGWinchester 95 sling-3.JPGLast edited by rayg; 10-01-2016, 07:11.Comment
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575164.Comment
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I'm not really worried about "tricking out" my new rifle - not at the prices I've seen. But it certainly never hurts to keep your eyes open. I'm just happy to have the rifle."We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
--C.S. LewisComment
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5MadFarmers;
575164.
??? what does that number refer to or mean, what am I missing. RayLast edited by rayg; 10-02-2016, 10:49.Comment
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The patent number for that sling. They stamped the date on it. That is the patent number.
When I indexed the U.S. patents I only took firearms and military stuff. Often the snaps and such have patents. Those I'd typically not notice. When I encounter them I go back and dig them out of the source documents and add them to my index. Figuring that would likely be a patent for a "buckle with a roller" or somesuch I'd typically not have it. So I walked the source without even checking my index. That date isn't for the buckle - it's for the sling. "Perkins and Johnson, Winchester Arms." That sling is, without a a doubt, Winchester.
If I made fewer assumptions I'd have found it in my index.
That's ok. Walking the source documents for that day's patents I did find a nice chocolate dipper.Comment
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The bayonets are not too hard to find, and though you are competing with a world of purely bayonet collectors, they sometimes show up on the auction sites at a price that does not make you wince. I ended up getting one for a small percentage of what my rifle cost. They display well with the rifle. Now finding a bayonet sheath...that's another matter entirely.
I have been trying to buy an original clip from a cartridge collector/dealer at a gun show I visit once a year, and a c-note does not interest him. I doubt if two would. But you may get lucky....Comment
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That is really great research 5MF. I figured the sling, including the buckle on my Win. Lee rifle is a Winchester sling because of the Win star proof stamp on the leather. And figured that the Winchester patent stamps on the 2nd sling was only for the buckles. Good to know the patent stamps are for the whole slings. I had no doubt the 2nd sling was also a Win sling due to the buckle but because of the poorer stitching, I thought maybe Win may have farmed out the leather portion. If not it Looks like Win quality control was lowed on the later slings possibly because of the large Russian order. In either case, both are Winchester 95 Lee or lever rifle slings.
Ric, sorry for horning in on your post about your great rifle find, but just thought the sling info might be important knowledge to collectors relating to the rifles, RayLast edited by rayg; 10-04-2016, 09:06.Comment
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Some years ago there was a shooter named Glen Devries-he worked at SARCO here in New Jersey, I never talked to him but saw him when I visited there.
He died from injuries received firing an M1895 Lee Navy. Not sure of the exact cause, all I can say is be careful.Comment
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Sincere congrats on one of the "holy grails" of US martial arms collecting! You have done well!Comment
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Inspectors last name was Jordan, vice "Jones." Based at the torpedo station in Newport R.I..
Navy gave Bridgeport Gun Implement a contract for thongs. Which means BGI may have sold them commercially as well given they made them for the Navy.
Two belts went at auction two days ago. Lady Fate smiled and one will be on my porch soon. No suspenders.Comment
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