Side arm contemporary with the Krag?

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  • Threesticks
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 1

    #1

    Side arm contemporary with the Krag?

    So I have an 1896 Rifle that I inherited from my Grandfather some years ago and began to wonder what would be a side arm that a soldier would have carried with his Krag?

    Thanks, Steve.
  • PhillipM
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 5937

    #2
    Colt 1892

    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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    • dave
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6778

      #3
      Most anything available, I would say. Average soldier probably had none. Many cut down Colt Single actions were made up at one point.
      You can never go home again.

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      • psteinmayer
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 1527

        #4
        Probably some 1861 Army Colt, and 1858 Remington Navy cap & ball revolvers still in use... much the same as Trapdoors in the SAW, and Krags in WW1.

        Phillip, your link doesn't work.
        Last edited by psteinmayer; 11-05-2016, 05:32.
        "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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        • butlersrangers
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 533

          #5
          Steve:
          The Krag was in Service from approximately 1894 to 1918. Side-Arms contemporary with the Krag will depend on place, time-frame, and 'branch' or type of service. As a rule, handguns seem to be carried by U.S. Officers and Cavalry Troopers, in period photos. Infantry men usually appear with rifle, ammo belt, and bayonet.

          As others have mentioned, early Colt .38 caliber, double action, 'swing out cylinder' revolvers, (models 1889 and 1892), were in use during the Spanish American War. In the Philippines during the campaigns against the Moro, the .38 Colt cartridge proved to be inadequate in stopping 'drugged & body armored' Moro warriors.

          This resulted in .45 cal. Colt model 1873 S.A.A., Colt model 1878 ('Alaskan/Philippine model'), and probably early Colt New Service revolvers being employed.

          (Attached are some photos to give the 'flavor of the age').
          uscavkrag.jpgmoro arms 1911.jpg5th Dist. Scouts.JPGsaw-Lt. Parker Hitt.jpgpop-johnson.jpg
          Last edited by butlersrangers; 11-05-2016, 08:52.

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          • butlersrangers
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 533

            #6
            FWIW: Photo of a (repro) Colt SAA, as altered, for re-issue during Philippine campaigns and a photo of (1902 production) Colt model 1878.

            IMG_4968-1.JPGPC-colt2.jpg

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            • psteinmayer
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 1527

              #7
              Man... Would I love to have that Indian!!!
              "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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              • deadin
                Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 80

                #8
                Here's a likely candidate.... This one is an unaltered M1892 civilian model but is identical to the military models used in the 1890's

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                • Bob S
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 315

                  #9
                  Colt New Service, 38 Long Colt (heeled bullet).

                  Respectfully,
                  Bob S.
                  Resp'y,
                  Bob S.

                  USN Distinguished Marksman No. O-067

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                  • free1954
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1165

                    #10
                    Originally posted by psteinmayer
                    Man... Would I love to have that Indian!!!


                    I thought that too. although that pile of arms taken from the moros is pretty interesting.

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                    • blackhawknj
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3754

                      #11
                      Infantrymen just carried the rifle, officers had the revolvers. A cavalryman would have carried the Krag Carbine and a Colt M1889, M1894 or M1896. The Rough Riders had Krag carbines and Colt SAAs. At Kettle Hill TR carried a Colt M1889 Navy salvaged from theMaine, not the Colt SAA he carries in the movie.

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                      • free1954
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1165

                        #12
                        Originally posted by deadin
                        Here's a likely candidate.... This one is an unaltered M1892 civilian model but is identical to the military models used in the 1890's



                        very nice revolver.

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                        • jon_norstog
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3896

                          #13
                          Lots of Rolling blocks there. You get hit with one of those big lead bullets, you go down.

                          jn

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                          • Michaelp
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 974

                            #14
                            Average trooper would only have a rifle.
                            No need, no authorization, no room for a handgun.
                            Anybody who has been a grunt would get that.

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                            • 1903fan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 470

                              #15
                              The Colt revolvers of that day were a thing of beauty, a great time to be an American serviceman!

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