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  • 70ish
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    • Jan 2011
    • 98

    #1

    Italian Walnut

    I'm looking for some opinions on whether a rifle with an Italian Walnut stock has any difference in value from a rifle with American Walnut. All other conditions and features being about equal. Thanks!
    Last edited by 70ish; 03-28-2017, 03:45.
  • Ned Butts
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 175

    #2
    Only by personal preference as the Italian walnut was official issue for a short time.

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    • Kragrifle
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1161

      #3
      The lighter Italian walnut has a tendency to darken with use making it less likely to find a really pretty original appearing stick. You will find these in 1899 and 1900 dated sticks with 1901 cartouches by far the most common date.

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      • 70ish
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        • Jan 2011
        • 98

        #4
        Thank you for the information. It confirms, I suppose, what I was thinking myself. I've had 380844 for 25 years or so, but have never been especially attached to it since I assumed it had been refinished at some time. It has an old varnish and the cartouche date is illegible. I bought it from an old friend who needed a little help and knew I like Krags so I couldn't say no. The color is definitely lighter (and a red/gold) color and now I can value it without worrying that I had a 'sleeper'. The stock apparently predates the action, too. Thanks, again for the help.

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        • Liam
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          • Sep 2009
          • 1376

          #5
          Several years ago I was at Dunlap Woodcrafts store here in Virginia looking into walnut stocks they manufacture for military arms. Took some pics and posted a report here on CSP. One interesting thing I saw was a pallet of American walnut blanks wrapped in shrink wrap with a label denoted this pallet was en route to Pedersoli of Italy. Perhaps their stands of oak are running thin.
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          Last edited by Liam; 03-31-2017, 04:50.
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          • 70ish
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            • Jan 2011
            • 98

            #6
            Since American Walnut is a darker color than Italian Walnut, Pedersoli probably wants the American color in order to match the details of the various types of arms they are reproducing. A Civil War musket just wouldn't look right if the stock was the color of the Italian wood. Even an original Krag looks a little "off" with the Italian wood. But if the wood was found in a cabinet or furniture or the like, it's actually attractive since it has strong graining like the Black Walnut. It's just not right on a Springfield product.

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            • Fred
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              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #7
              A rare Italian Walnut stock made for a Model 1896 receiver. Bill Mook had collected quite a few 1898 Krag rifles with Italian Walnut stocks. He told me that this 1896 stock was unusual and of course he liked it!
              I think that such Italian Walnut stocks are beautiful.

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              Last edited by Fred; 04-03-2017, 12:45.

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              • Fred
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