1900/1901 cartouched Krag rifles

[nf1e]

Art - Don't take any offense. Krags are interesting with many little subtleties worthy of study. Happy New Year!

Heck, no offense taken. I just love loading for them and shooting. Never took the time to learn about the different variations of Krags, 03s, 03A4, 03A3, M1, M1 carbines. Way too busy shooting them, with a range right out my front door I keep pretty busy.

[Kragrifle]

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Now that we’re discussing unusual 1896 Krag rifles you have to bring up the sideways cartouche specimens. Again, they show up enough to believe they are Springfield produced, but documentation seems to be lacking.

[butlersrangers]

Maybe that was stamped on the day, J. Sumner Adams realized, they were never going to make him "Master Armorer".

[Dick Hosmer]

Anyone have an "1896" (w/o "Model") higher than 37045? Time for another check. Happy New Year!!!!!!

[cowtownscout]

Anyone have an "1896" (w/o "Model") higher than 37045? Time for another check. Happy New Year!!!!!!

Made me go look, both the 1896 carbine and rifle have "Model". I'll strive to get my Krags out to take photos and post them sometime in 2018. Happy New Year everyone!!
Scout

[butlersrangers]

'Kragrifle's original post introduced the subject of "Reworked model 1896 Krags" having a stock 'cartouche' dated 1900 or 1901, (rifles and carbines). IMHO such Krags beg explanation and this has kind of been lost in this thread.

Since manufacture of model 1896 actions ended, at around serial #109020, in approximately July, 1898, these late 'cartouche' stamps create an interesting puzzle. Were these model 1896 Krags not accepted for service until 1900 and 1901, or are these 'dated cartouche' stamps simply surviving marks on recycled stocks? (If the stocks are recycled, it opens the possibility that Springfield or other U.S. Arsenals may have altered 'used' model 1898 stocks to rebuild some model 1896 Arms).

More data, like the serial number range (of such model 1896 arms) and the stock condition (original finish or arsenal refinish), might throw further light on model 1896 Krags with 1900 & 1901 'cartouche' marks. Very close scrutiny should be given to the stock-inletting in the bolt handle area.

[Mark Daiute]

on 5's website is a rifle with the vertical cartouche it is under the heading of "interesting rifle" IIRC. It might shed some light on this discussion here.

M

[Dick Hosmer]

Is Joes's website up again? It has gone through a number of iterations over the years, always very much subject to his whim of the moment - you never know whether he is going to allow access, or have any viewable content, or not, at any given time. His book, however, is a very valuable source of information, and I would recommend it highly to any Krag collector.

[Mark Daiute]

was up in the last few days.

M

[Ned Butts]

was just there all good that I looked at