Stevens Pope 22 caliber Krag carbine

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  • Kragrifle
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1161

    #1

    Stevens Pope 22 caliber Krag carbine

    Hasn?t been a new post in awhile so I thought I?d show off a pretty scarce 22 Krag. Stevens Pope produced a number of 22 LR barrels for the New Jersey guard between about 1901-1903. They were to be used for training being cheaper to shoot than the 30/40 cartridges. This spurred Springfield into coming up with a design of their own the result of which was a terribly complicated and delicate Gallery Practice 22 Long rifle (BTW the only 22 Long rifle produced for military training).

    Stevens Pope did produce a few carbine length barrels, perhaps as few as three. This is a carbine I first saw at the Baltimore show 10-15 years ago. I was out bid then, but fate gave me another chance.
  • Kragrifle
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1161

    #2
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    • Kragrifle
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1161

      #3
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      • Dick Hosmer
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 5993

        #4
        Outstanding - thanks for sharing!

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        • JimF
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1179

          #5
          Originally posted by Kragrifle
          . . . . . (BTW the only 22 Long rifle produced for military training). . . . .
          I thought at least SOME of the M1922 Springfield .22 cal. rifles were used by troops for “military training.”

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          • Parashooter
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 819

            #6
            .22 Long
            .22 Long Rifle

            Different cartridge, different twist. (Still confused?)

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            • Dick Hosmer
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 5993

              #7
              Originally posted by Parashooter
              .22 Long
              .22 Long Rifle

              Different cartridge, different twist. (Still confused?)
              Same case, different bullet. Even more confusion.

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              • Tom Trevor
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 566

                #8
                I once had a fill length rifle marked .22 with the Stevens -Pope barrel it was a fun shooter. range apes would always ask why the hell did they make .22 krags? My story was that the army in the Islands wanted to capture locals for information but the 30-40 kept killing them so the army brought in .22 rifle to just wound them. I think once in a while I was believed.

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                • JohnMOhio
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1545

                  #9
                  Good story Tom. There is one or two born every day. I try to avoid them.
                  Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.
                  Author unkown.

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                  • Kragrifle
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1161

                    #10
                    I have collected Krags for a long time and have a particular affinity for the 22rf cartridge. Did a complete display of 22 cal Krags at the Kansas City show several years ago, but no award. Is there anything anyone would like to see?

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                    Trying to keep this site alive?..

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                    • Tom Trevor
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 566

                      #11
                      Kragrifle, Show a shot of the receiver marked CAL.22 I doubt many have seen one.

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                      • Dick Hosmer
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5993

                        #12
                        Is the receiver marked .22 on the S-P barreled guns? Thought that was just on the SA-GP rifle? BTW, Kragrifle, fantastic piece!

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                        • Kragrifle
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1161

                          #13
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                          • Kragrifle
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1161

                            #14
                            These are two of the GP Krags I have been able to find. Remember these were produced in 1907 right up to production of the first Hoffer Thompson 1903’s. Only the Springfield produced GP Krags will have these receiver markings. That said, the second of these two receivers is on a carbine length firearm and has a chamber at 12 o’clock just like the Stevens Pope pieces.

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                            • Dick Hosmer
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5993

                              #15
                              Thanks, but which gun is that? Pictures are TINY!

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