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  • psteinmayer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1527

    #1

    Camp Perry Pictures

    Here's a few from the National Vintage Rifle Match at Camp Perry today! Enjoy

    Here's Mark Daiute, Bob - Madsenshooter, Fred, and myself.



    Me with my Brother-in-law Allen Jencks (he shot a Mosin Nagant).



    My 1898 Rifle and my loads.



    Madsenshooter firing in the "Rapid Fire" phase.



    Madsenshooter firing in the "Offhand" phase.



    Allen scoring for my relay.

    Last edited by psteinmayer; 08-02-2013, 06:55.
    "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo
  • Griff Murphey
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 3708

    #2
    Nice pix & congrats to all of you guys for honoring the Krag!

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    • MAG-63
      Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 33

      #3
      That looks like great fun, and congratulations to you all!

      I WILL be there next year!

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      • Gunbuff58
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 11

        #4
        Great pics. Looks like you had a great time.

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        • gnoahhh
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 100

          #5
          Great pics. I can hear the spiteful crack of those Krags and smell the burnt powder from here!

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          • soldierofhistory1898
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 27

            #6
            I waited to see you two (Fred and Mark) come back from pit detail but missed you both. Stood near the t-shirt issue tent hoping to get a glimpse of either of you but I missed the boat again. Any way maybe I'll have better luck next year. By then I'll have my d--n cataracts out and will be able to see again.
            So until next year just remember" Underneath our starry flag we'll pacify them targets with a KRAG".
            P.S. I really was happy to meet Fred and Mark and was dissapointed I didn't meet Bob and Paul.

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            • psteinmayer
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 1527

              #7
              Sorry I missed you too... We'll meet next year, soldierofhistory! We had a great time, and next year will be even better. Maybe we'll get a whole row of Krag shooters... wouldn't that be awesome!

              Incidentally, it was great meeting Fred and Mark. I've been talking to Mark here on the forum for a long time now... so it's nice to finally put a name with a face!
              "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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              • madsenshooter
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1476

                #8
                It was fun, that's for sure. I did better than I did last year, but still fell 6 points short of a medal thanks to a couple 5s when I flinched in standing, and putting one shot in some other shooter's target during rapid fire. 96 slow fire prone, 75 rapid fire prone, 81 standing, total 252-1X. About middle of the pack again, and I know the rifle is better than that. My only miss was the crossfire. My one piece sling, actually the front part of a 1907 sling that's a little longer to fit a model 1917, is a bit short now that I have that leather jacket under my shooting coat. Camp Perry wasn't a good place to discover that. The modified Parashooter charger worked flawlessly, seriously I gotta get someone to make them out of plastic for me to sell. There was a left handed fellow from CA shooting an MAS 36 who said he'd much rather shoot his Krag. He liked the charger, probably would have given me $50 for it.

                You know, some benevolent organization ought to provide a trophy for the high Krag shooter, one named after someone significant in the rifles manufacture or adoption, a Medal of Honor winner who used one, or a collector-type worthy of such a memorial. Sam Porter is out, they already have a Porter Trophy. Not a trophy to be brought home, something like the John C. Garand trophy, but just for Krag shooters. That's a hint to you KCA members. If you build it, folks will shoot for it!

                Thanks for the pics Paul!
                Last edited by madsenshooter; 08-04-2013, 07:59.
                "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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                • Griff Murphey
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 3708

                  #9
                  In Whelen's book MISTER RIFLEMAN there is a photo of a black sergeant who was a very high scoring shooter with the Krag, back in the pre-WWI era. Maybe the award could be named for that sergeant.

                  We've all shot the wrong target, and we've all pulled one in offhand! For me the Krag is a hard gun to shoot offhand and I'm not sure if it is dwell time in a longer barrel or flinch time in a short, fat, elderly man, so to me that 81 is not to be ashamed of. Don't feel bad. That 95 in prone slow is a fine score. You using a 1902 peep or the buckhorn?
                  Last edited by Griff Murphey; 08-04-2013, 05:37.

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                  • madsenshooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1476

                    #10
                    I can't see anything through the peep Griff, couldn't see a whole lot with the original slot. So, it got enlarged to .062" wide and deepened just a bit with a rounded bottom. More like a U notch. At that width I can see a sliver of light on each side of the front sight stud as I draw the blade down. Before next year I'm going to experiment with leveling the rear sight on the stud while keeping the front post up where I can see it better. I also temporarily enlarged the blade to .080 by putting a few wraps of aluminum tape on it then painting over the tape. That's a good suggestion for the trophy's name Griff, if we can find more about him and someone to donate said trophy to the CMP. Any other ideas from the rest of you?

                    Best part of the whole event was at the John C. Garand award ceremony. I stayed, since I had been randomly drawn to have my Krag inspected I was in the drawing for a presentation grade Garand. Some kid won it and his ear to ear grin was the highlight of the event. He started to walk off with it, I'd have ran!
                    Last edited by madsenshooter; 08-04-2013, 06:45.
                    "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • M2Phil
                      Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 95

                      #11
                      Great pics, Paul. Too bad I didn't see you guys, although I did walk out to the butts behind the fellow with the camo trousers and web gear in the afternoon. Saw him later with his Krag over his shoulder. Which means I probably saw the rest of you as well. Our bunch was on 17 and 18, relays 5-8. Rain. Stop. Rain. Stop. Just enough to get the old Krag good and wet. I did see a guy with a M91/30, no sling.

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                      • psteinmayer
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1527

                        #12
                        Sorry we missed too Phil! We did have a great time though... Bob and I were on 17 for Garand on Saturday morning! The fog was brutal, and we didn't get started until around 8:30 when it finally cleared!
                        "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                        • psteinmayer
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1527

                          #13
                          Originally posted by madsenshooter
                          It was fun, that's for sure. I did better than I did last year, but still fell 6 points short of a medal thanks to a couple 5s when I flinched in standing, and putting one shot in some other shooter's target during rapid fire.
                          Originally posted by Griff Murphey
                          We've all shot the wrong target, and we've all pulled one in offhand! For me the Krag is a hard gun to shoot offhand and I'm not sure if it is dwell time in a longer barrel or flinch time in a short, fat, elderly man, so to me that 81 is not to be ashamed of. Don't feel bad. That 95 in prone slow is a fine score. You using a 1902 peep or the buckhorn?
                          I put one in my neighbors target in the Rapid at Saturday's Garand Match!

                          Griff... holding that long barrel in the Off Hand is a pain for sure... but I started reversing my left hand which allowed me to bury my left elbow in my side... and that provided me some stability. My scores weren't as good as Bob's... but I did get an E for effort, LOL... and I won a T-shirt, so there's that!

                          Oh... and I'm using the 1902 sight. I normally use the peep... but this year, my close vision made it hard, so I went back to using the sight cup, and I found it much easier to get on target (at least for me).
                          Last edited by psteinmayer; 08-04-2013, 06:52.
                          "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                          • M2Phil
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 95

                            #14
                            Cross-fire? Check. Launching one into orbit (or somewhere) during offhand? Check. Didn't do either of them this year, however.
                            I use the '02 sight as well. Not the swing-up peep, though. The U works just great.
                            I usually put my left hand in a fist, right in front of the triggerguard, "flippin' the bird" style, without the middle finger up. I suppose the 30" tube serves that purpose.

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                            • Dick Hosmer
                              Very Senior Member - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5993

                              #15
                              Speaking of jerking one in offhand (bear in mind this was .22 gallery with 3 over 2, center sighter) I hunched one something AWFUL one night on the #3 bull, and was REALLY afraid to look down range. But, oh joy, I had dropped PRECISELY the amount required to score an absolutely PERFECT pinwheel on the #5 bull. Don't remember my score for the position, but will never forget that jerk. Others such were not so pleasant, of course.

                              We used to practice with two people taking turns shooting at the same bull. With (on a GOOD night) a half-to-full second (24X scope) "inside the 9-ring" hold, and a light trigger, you would think it would be EASY, if going second, to beat your buddy's 8. NO, the bad shot acts just like a magnet, believe me!

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