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  • CJCulpeper
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 449

    #1

    What do you guys think?

    I got it in my pea sized brain that I want to make some chargers for the krag just like the ones Parashooter used to make.

    What are you guys thoughts? Fools errand? Half baked? Something that is needed though on a very small level? Greatest idea since sliced bread that even surpasses Obumler's Peace Prize?

    Culpeper
    Last edited by CJCulpeper; 09-07-2013, 08:06. Reason: changed stripper clips to chargers
    1."If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things." - Rene Descartes
    2. "The Right to Buy Weapons is the Right to be Free" From The Weapon Shop by A. E. van Vogt
  • Dick Hosmer
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 5993

    #2
    Number three - number four will never be surpassed.

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    • Parashooter
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 819

      #3
      I have never made "stripper" clips. (Why would I want to clip a stripper?) I did make some chargers for US and Norwegian Krags. These are handy for rapid-fire situations requiring more than six shots - and otherwise superfluous.

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      • madsenshooter
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1476

        #4
        Mine works to perfection. It's made a little different than parashooter's, it has a solid back which allows me to strategically place a pop rivet so that I don't have to worry about the rounds spilling out the top if I mishandle the thing. I don't use my thumb to push them down, I pick it up between thumb and middle finger, then strip them with my index finger. At Camp Perry I was shooting with a fellow that thought it just the improvement he was looking for so that he could shoot his Krag left handed rather than the MAS36 he was using to defend the honor of France. Here's some blurry photos of use, it works especially well from prone, I don't even have to take the rifle off my shoulder, and I'm reloaded in seconds. Spritz!
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        • Fred
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 4977

          #5
          Originally posted by Parashooter
          I have never made "stripper" clips. (Why would I want to clip a stripper?) I did make some chargers for US and Norwegian Krags. These are handy for rapid-fire situations requiring more than six shots - and otherwise superfluous.

          I was the lucky guy who bought the very stripper clip that is imaged above. It has a teak wood plug on the top held in with brass nails with the heads filed off flush with the wood. Beautiful clip! I also bought your finest copper model. Both are excellent! Too bad I don't own a Krag anymore.
          Last edited by Fred; 09-07-2013, 01:38.

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          • madsenshooter
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 1476

            #6
            Thanks for clarifying that para's has a closed top. Couldn't see it, but I see the nails now. Although mine will go down in the magazine vertically and feed like his, I found that it doesn't need to go all the way in there. The rifle is rotated to the left enough that the charger can be held vertically. It's left side is against the receiver and the right side is only slightly in the magazine. Close enough, they shoot right in there. Seems to work a little better than trying to force the cartridges to go 90 degrees. Once they're spritzed in, just lift the charger enough that it's out of the way and you can then smack the magazine gate with the heel of your hand to finish the load. I had a lot of time left in my rapid fire string, might have shot the string in 60 seconds or less. If I'd used some of the 20 seconds I had to spare to check target numbers and hold harder, things would've gone better for me. (Gotta make a note of that, shoot slower next year!)
            "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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            • psteinmayer
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 1527

              #7
              I thought you were going to get them made Bob? I'm sitting here tapping my foot... waiting for my Madsen Special to arrive... LOL!

              I'm thinking I might bite the bullet and make one this winter (or get it made for me). Based on my pitiful performance at Camp Perry... I need to improve all the way around!
              "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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              • CJCulpeper
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 449

                #8
                Superfluous perhaps but how much stuff do we each own that is superfluous to our existance? I might as well make a couple for myself.

                Thanks guys

                Culpeper
                1."If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things." - Rene Descartes
                2. "The Right to Buy Weapons is the Right to be Free" From The Weapon Shop by A. E. van Vogt

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                • Parashooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 819

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fred
                  . . .stripper clip that is imaged above. It has a teak wood plug on the top held in with brass nails with the heads filed off flush with the wood.
                  1. They're chargers. (No strippers or other exotic dancers were involved in design or production.)

                  2. Not nails, they're through brass rod with both ends riveted over. That way they can't work themselves out.

                  Final version dispensed with two-piece wooden plug, replacing it with integral soldered or folded closure. Unlike some designs, the U-slot is open from above - enabling user to propel cartridges into magazine with thumb or finger of either hand.

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                  • psteinmayer
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1527

                    #10
                    You should draw up some plans Para... I'm thinking there would be a market for plans, much the same as there's a market for model plans or housing blueprints.

                    I'm planning on making myself a charger this winter, and I sure would like to get my hands on a set of plans.
                    "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                    • Fred
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 4977

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Parashooter
                      1. They're chargers. (No strippers or other exotic dancers were involved in design or production.)

                      2. Not nails, they're through brass rod with both ends riveted over. That way they can't work themselves out.

                      Final version dispensed with two-piece wooden plug, replacing it with integral soldered or folded closure. Unlike some designs, the U-slot is open from above - enabling user to propel cartridges into magazine with thumb or finger of either hand.

                      I stand corrected. I just wasn't thinking when I typed the post.

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                      • madsenshooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1476

                        #12
                        Paul, I think the basic pattern is in the forum archives, don't have time to look for it and link you to it right now, but we've discussed it before and parashooter put up the dimensions. Mine is rough because it was my first attempt, didn't need anymore at the time, but I have enough .030" sheet brass to make several. No doubt aluminum would be easier to bend and cheaper.
                        "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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                        • psteinmayer
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1527

                          #13
                          I think I'd go with Brass. Aluminum can be easy to bend, but can also be brittle. Brass can be bent and formed easily, and the joints can be soldered giving it a smooth and finished appearance. I'll look in the archives , and if I find it, I'll post a link!
                          "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                          • Parashooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 819

                            #14
                            Sell plans? You've got to be kidding. Would you want to deal with klutzes who can't follow instructions or snip a pattern?

                            Here's a copy of the cutting template, complete with a ruler. If you have the skill to re-size and print this at actual size, you might also be able to transfer it to sheet metal and bend it into a useable charger.



                            Brass is good, copper really nice, aluminum works fine, as does steel - made a couple from an empty WD40 can: ugly but functional.

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                            • psteinmayer
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1527

                              #15
                              That's awesome Para... Many Thanks to you sir!!!
                              "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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