Krag carbine on CMP............

[Dan Shapiro]

Any comments from the experts on this one?

http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=1535&n=Krag-Jorgenson-1899-Cavalry-Carbine-347688

[m1903rifle]

Looks correct to me........and it is a "hit" in SRS. Will probably go high.

[psteinmayer]

Looks pretty good. It's currently at over $1,400... and I'm betting it's going to keep going up! Wish I had a couple grand to throw down. I'd be making shipping arrangements instead of typing this, LOL

[Weasel]

The bidding Sharks smell blood.

[Dick Hosmer]

Here's another, but with a problem - what is it?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=370805053

[70ish]

Saddle ring

[mack]

I can't predict the final price on the CMP piece, but north of three thousand seems likely considering the early stages of bidding.

[Dick Hosmer]

Saddle ring

Very good - 30" stocks came both ways (though the "no ring/bar" is rare) but the 32" NEVER had it.

[psteinmayer]

Very good - 30" stocks came both ways (though the "no ring/bar" is rare) but the 32" NEVER had it.

Also, as I posted over on KCA, the Krag is listed as an 1898, but no serial number is given. 1898's have a very specific serial number range. I'd be very suspicious.

[Rick the Librarian]

Any comments from the experts on this one?

http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail....Carbine-347688

If it's like most guns on the CMP auctions, it will sell for much higher than it is worth in reality.

[Mark Daiute]

If it's like most guns on the CMP auctions, it will sell for much higher than it is worth in reality.

While I agree with the sentiment expressed, reality, unfortunately for us, becomes what is paid.

[coastie]

I am not even going to look. I can't afford it!
But...isn't the saying quoted as : "paid the right price too early"?
Or something similar.
5 or 10 years from now......
Thanks, Paul

[mack]

I predicted north of $3000 and it wound up at $3177. I am not an expert at predicting, but I have followed CMP auctions long enough to be able to see from early bidding where I think things will go.

As for paying too much, the rifles on CMP may be high but they come with provenance that can't be disputed and that accounts for much of their price. No messing around with these rifles means higher prices. Once it's outside Anniston, the bets are all closed as buyer can ruin the finest of rifles from CMP. Witness some of the sanded, refinished, touched up examples offered and shown on various forums. Which would you rather have? A chopped up, refurbed one or one that costs a few dollars more and is authentic?

[Dick Hosmer]

You've raised an interesting point - just what is the provenance of the arms offered by CMP? Is there any reason to believe they have always been under government control - treasures from some musty warehouse? I have to admit that I am totally ignorant of the process, but have seen pictures of some pretty jumbled pieces, and read less-than-glowing reports of what was available in the racks. Have never visited the facilities (2000 miles away) or participated in one of their auctions. Thanks for any details you can provide.

[dave]

If it's like most guns on the CMP auctions, it will sell for much higher than it is worth in reality.

I'll second that! Have not even bought from CMP since late 90's, even everyday items are too high.