A funny thing happened on my way to the cast boolit match...

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  • psteinmayer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1527

    #16
    Go NAVY!
    "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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    • Bob S
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 315

      #17
      Originally posted by psteinmayer
      Go NAVY!
      Yup. 5 enlisted, 20 commissioned.
      Resp'y,
      Bob S.

      USN Distinguished Marksman No. O-067

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      • madsenshooter
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1476

        #18
        Originally posted by psteinmayer
        I checked those bullets that Madsenshooter sent me, and they don't drop into the muzzle... so they should be good to go!
        I specialize in fat noses. For cast bullets that is. Keeps them below max magazine length, yet allows them to be stuffed into the rifle's throat. My experiments indicate that the more bearing surface you have, the more accuracy you're likely to get.

        Bob's 185 grain fat spitzer shoots pretty good in the cutoff sporter but they are sized to .310.


        You don't have the fat one Paul, just above the crimp groove is .305-.306 on yours, the fat one I'm hoping to take to Perry is .310-.311 at the same point. That's really not a crimp groove, it's a cleaning groove, a place for powder residue and lube from previous shots to go. You could load the same spitzers you have in your .308 groove diameter Krag, no problem, no sizing needed, the throat will do the sizing.
        Last edited by madsenshooter; 04-09-2014, 02:19.
        "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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        • psteinmayer
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 1527

          #19
          Ahhhhhhh Ok, roger that! I'm heading to the range tomorrow to work on sighting a little more, and hopefully getting er' spot on. I'll let you know how she works out...
          "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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          • psteinmayer
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 1527

            #20
            Hit the range today. Was doing a nice job of sighting in my scout scope, and fired around 60 rounds, until the scope broke! I am using an AIM long eye relief scope (inexpensive), and the locking ring holding the ocular lens in place popped out and the ocular lens became mis-aligned. I tried to put it back into place and tighten the locking ring, but it won't tighten. Needless to say, I am quite irate about it, and I'll be calling AIM on Monday morning! Below are a couple pictures of the scope mounted with the Kraghaus mount, some cast loads with Madsenshooter's 185 gr spitzer, and my first sighting target!

            My 1898 sporter with scope mounted

            Close up of the scope mounted

            185 grain spitzers provided to me by Madsenshooter

            Sighting-in target
            "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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            • madsenshooter
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1476

              #21
              That's not bad for the first load you tried Paul. A couple other factors probably influenced group size too. I've had the ocular bell come loose on a similar scope, and that moved the POI around, so your lens working out likely did the same. I also note you're giving the bullet a jump rather than seating them into the rifling. With low pressure loads, that sometimes works ok, the neck doesn't expand much and keeps the bullet from going crooked before it starts to take the rifling. I noticed the other day that the 36.5gr of RL19 I use doesn't fully expand the neck, it blows them out to .313" ID, but a higher pressure jacketed load in the same rifle blows the neck out to .315" ID.
              "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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              • psteinmayer
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 1527

                #22
                I agree that the neck is probably not expanding much. I'll measure them before I clean and resize. I can also seat the bullets out a little further too. I may seat one loose and chamber in an empty case to see where the bullet contacts the rifling. Then I'll have an idea of how far out I can seat them and still have them fully supported by the case neck. I have a little homework to do now!
                "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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