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  • 1563621
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1103

    #1

    Value of 1896 carbine

    Ser. 22176. Looks in good cond. asking 3500. Me thinks too high.
  • sdkrag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 426

    #2
    Is the serial number correct? I would call it a cut down with that number.

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    • Dick Hosmer
      Very Senior Member - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 5993

      #3
      Absolutely NOT a real carbine if the number was quoted correctly. Lowest known production carbine is 24685. Here is 24893
      Attached Files

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      • 1563621
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1103

        #4
        http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armsl..._rough_640.jpg On armslist now.

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        • Dick Hosmer
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 5993

          #5
          Looks like "1896" and 33whatever to me. That is a proper carbine number, but not a bargain price.

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          • sdkrag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 426

            #6
            I've got one I might consider selling for that kind of money.

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            • Dick Hosmer
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 5993

              #7
              Me too!!!

              I have got to start thinning the collection!

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              • 5MadFarmers
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 2815

                #8
                Originally posted by Dick Hosmer
                Me too!!!

                I have got to start thinning the collection!
                Send 24434 this way. I'll have three cadet stocks made instead of one. The next time anyone sees 24398 it'll be sitting in one. With the correct parts to boot.

                "Making up a gun!!!" Yeah, kind of like making up the Titanic. Given none survived it won't be a mystery that this one is assembled. Might even cartouche it with my initials.

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                • Dick Hosmer
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5993

                  #9
                  I'll give it some thought.

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                  • 5MadFarmers
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2815

                    #10
                    Stocks don't exist. The butt plates are easy. The hard part is the other unique bits. Especially these:

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                    • TerryR
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 198

                      #11
                      I've got 24,173 it has a rear sight like the one on the right in your pic.
                      Any other differences to distinguish it?
                      Originally posted by 5MadFarmers
                      Stocks don't exist. The butt plates are easy. The hard part is the other unique bits. Especially these:

                      Last edited by TerryR; 08-09-2014, 05:53. Reason: spelling

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                      • 5MadFarmers
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2815

                        #12
                        "Any other difference?"

                        Many.

                        I've got 24,173
                        Mattoon last year in January per chance? If so I was debating taking that one away from you but decided to save my pennies for the incredible selection of field gear. Most of which I took but I'm kicking myself for the bits I didn't. Took a box of "leggings" for $2. Had a Krag action cover in there. Sad part is I did that three times.....



                        The three pictured initially were all rifle sights with the 1892 blank. Center above. Compare with the 1892 (left) and normal 1896 (right) and you'll see the lug is the same as the 1892. They burned up the 1892 blanks on the early 1896 sights.

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                        • TerryR
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 198

                          #13
                          Yep, this ones from Mattoon! She's a beautiful rifle! I'm so very glad you passed on her!
                          The sight has the bevel on top of the leaf, and serrations on the very top to lift it.
                          So I'd say 1896 as it has the squared cut lugs .
                          Thanks for the info.

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                          • 5MadFarmers
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 2815

                            #14
                            Wrong part to focus on. I've updated the picture so reload in your browser. Notice the two on the left have the same shape whereas the one on the right doesn't have that lug.

                            Left is 1892.
                            Middle is very early 1896.
                            Right is "normal" 1896.

                            It's that lug that identifies those sights. Early carbines have it also.

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                            • Kragrifle
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1161

                              #15
                              Early, "lugged" rifle sights?

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