New Krag

[1563621]

few more.

[Dick Hosmer]

Dare I mention that the 1892 sight slide doesn't use friction/serrations in the sense that the 1898/02/03 sights do, but rather engages fixed slots?

[1563621]

This looks like the 1892, but no slots, Uses friction on slide.

[thorin6]

After they dropped the 1898 sights they held the guns at SA until sights were ready. It's in their annual report.

Thus my speculation; at the point that they ran out of M1896 sights, before they made more of them, and assuming that there were unused M1892 sights available at the Armory (I'm assuming that M1892 sights would be kept as spares to replace broken/damaged sights), would Springfield Armory put M1892 sights on completed M1898 rifles as place holders, and then replaced them as soon as M1896 sights were available? I believe you are right that none of the M1898 rifles left the Armory with M1892 sights, and again, just speculating (my last comment on this).

[5MadFarmers]

Dare I mention that the 1892 sight slide doesn't use friction/serrations in the sense that the 1898/02/03 sights do, but rather engages fixed slots?

Wasn't clear - the 1904 dated gun. Series production stopped in 1903. Examples with 1904 stamps exist. Not much different than 1896s with cartouches after those were no longer in production.

The serrations on the side of the sight ladder might be a clue.

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This is my first Krag, Have had well over 200 garands.

In the end the numbers will be reversed. It's inevitable. Might as well start selling the M1s to start paying for the Krags. As an added bonus you'll free up the safe space.

Sold a couple of M1s last weekend. No Krags.

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Thus my speculation; at the point that they ran out of M1896 sights, before they made more of them, and assuming that there were unused M1892 sights available at the Armory (I'm assuming that M1892 sights would be kept as spares to replace broken/damaged sights), would Springfield Armory put M1892 sights on completed M1898 rifles as place holders, and then replaced them as soon as M1896 sights were available?

Where is the value? Just two screws to take out before putting the new sights on. Besides, I think they held them for the 1901 sights so they'd have to make handguards which they'd know weren't right. I'd have to review those reports in order to confirm they were held for 1901, not 1896, sights but that's what's in the noggin.

just speculating (my last comment on this).

Speculate away. That's what keeps us all on our toes so we don't begin staring at our own navels.

If large numbers of 1892s had been altered they'd have free 1892s but most of that was later. There are some other basic reasons why installing 1892s would be bad but, regardless, we don't seem to see that theory hold true on guns in the wild. Very few 1898s are seen with 1892 sights and in the bulk of the cases where they are it's too scattered to indicate armory/arsenal work.

Then, again, we get to that "a sample of one isn't any sample at all." Maybe this particular gun was personally made for Mordecai - a fan of the 1892. A sample of one is no sample at all. "Most likely wrong. .0000001% chance of being right."

[Kragrifle]

Will have to find the rifle.

[jon_norstog]

Just to add my 2 cents worth: most every one is thinking in terms of arsenal and unit arms racks. The U.S. Navy also had Krags, which were kept on board by the gunners mates except when issued, say for a shore party. I've seen GMs in action. They get bored and work on the weapons. They might oil and polish them, or they might swap parts around. If a sight gets broken they might rummage around the gun locker and find a serviceable replacement. Just a thought.

jn

[1563621]

It looks like the site has been on the rifle a long time. However for 2200.00, I think I got a good deal???








LOL-525.00 shipped.

[Fred]

I think that for $2200.00, you should've gotten a much better Krag.

[1563621]

See last line-LOL-525 shipped! I think It was a good price. Even if rear site incorrect!

[Fred]

For $525.00, you did Excellent!

[5MadFarmers]

Sell another M1. Buy an 1896 rifle with the 1902 sight installed. Swap handguards and sights. Then find the 1896 sight. Peddle the 1892.

Problem solved.

[Mark Daiute]

Everyone cool with the look and fit and finish of the handgaurd?

[madsenshooter]

I noted no dents or dings like the rest of the rifle, very sharp edges, and a finish different from the stock. Could be repro, but if so, someone got the color pretty much right.

[1563621]

Looks like just a little flater finish. A little gunny paste and it would probably match perfect. I did not think it was all orig. But for 525. I could not pass this one up. Stain is almost a dead on match.