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  • Mark Daiute
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 654

    #1

    Kracked Lugs?

    Anyone ever come across a cracked lug on a bolt?

    I contend that the likelihood of finding one is nigh on to nill.

    They cracked in service. While in service they were fixed as was the load that did the deed.

    Since that happened we have a greater variety of powders that push bullets faster and gentler and commercial loads have always been within pressures that our Krags can withstand, thus my contention. This does not rule out the odd handloader that over does it.

    So: who among us has ever encountered a cracked lug on a bolt?


    Thanks,

    Mark
    "A man with a tractor and a chain saw has no excuses, nor does he need any"
    Me. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" Emerson "Consistency is the darling of those that stack wood or cast bullets" Me.
  • psteinmayer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 1527

    #2
    I ain't seen one yet...
    "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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    • 11mm
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 355

      #3
      I've probably had 25 Krags, and a dozen spare bolts, and I've never found a cracked bolt. I even have done some primitive dye penetrant testing and saw no cracks.

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      • Kragrifle
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1161

        #4
        I have seen one Krag bolt with a cracked lug.

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        • Mark Daiute
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 654

          #5
          Originally posted by Kragrifle
          I have seen one Krag bolt with a cracked lug.
          Thanks Kragrifle for getting back on this and thanks to the others that responded as well.

          Kragrifle, still have the bolt? have photos to share? would love to see it.

          Thanks again,

          Mark
          "A man with a tractor and a chain saw has no excuses, nor does he need any"
          Me. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" Emerson "Consistency is the darling of those that stack wood or cast bullets" Me.

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          • bobgar
            Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 55

            #6
            I have owned many Krags and have not seen one.

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            • Dick Hosmer
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 5993

              #7
              Originally posted by bobgar
              I have owned many Krags and have not seen one.
              +1

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              • Stephan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 313

                #8
                There are photos online of cracked Krag bolts...and seems I saw a bit of a tutorial with pics about the phenomenon....

                I imagine simple attrition has taken care of most cracked Krag bolts these days. Busted bolts either replaced or rifle scrapped/retired/parted-out. Not too many Krag rifles seeing service in this century anyhow.

                An old 1960's 'Shooter's Bible' I own has an article about sporterizing old military rifles....warns to inspect Krag bolt-lugs/lug and modest loads. It's a real issue(like low-number M1903 receivers). My take on the deal is that modest ammo is the ticket for Krag bolt longevity. The Army's experiments with hotter ammo back in the day..plus the use of 'Grandpa's whammy shell' .30-40 reloads in civilian service ever since have caused bolts to crack on occasion. Something a Krag owner that shoots his Krag should keep an eye on.

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                • butlersrangers
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 533

                  #9
                  I've seen one, from a friend's early Krag, that was updated to model 1896 changes, and in 'excellent' condition.

                  The 'fault' was a very subtle straight line crack at the rear of the lug, where it joins the bolt-body. (It almost appeared 'machined'). My friend discovered it while cleaning, after shooting U.S. factory loads. It likely was 'cracked' before his firing the rifle, but, had gone unnoticed.

                  He was able to get a correct 'mint' replacement bolt for about $60 and has had no further problems.
                  Last edited by butlersrangers; 07-14-2015, 08:07.

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                  • Mark Daiute
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 654

                    #10
                    so far that makes two that forum members have seen in person, and that is, in a sense, quite a few.

                    Thanks for the replies.

                    Mark
                    "A man with a tractor and a chain saw has no excuses, nor does he need any"
                    Me. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" Emerson "Consistency is the darling of those that stack wood or cast bullets" Me.

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                    • Stephan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 313

                      #11
                      here's some busted Krag bolts...http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...olt-Looks-Like

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                      • psteinmayer
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1527

                        #12
                        Fortunately, the Krag is well designed with two safety lugs (the bolt handle and bolt rib) which are more than capable of handling the bolt should you crack the lug. Sticking to safe loads below max should ensure one never has to worry about it.
                        "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                        • madsenshooter
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1476

                          #13
                          I have a 92 receiver that is cracked, pretty much a mirror image of what is seen in the bolt pics linked to above.
                          "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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                          • kragluver
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 233

                            #14
                            The cracked lug issues in the Krag were associated with inconsistent metallurgy couple with widely varying peak pressures associated with the early smokeless powders. The problem manifested when they attempted the 2200 fps cartridge with the 220 gr bullet.

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                            • Kragrifle
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1161

                              #15
                              No. The bolt belonged to a friend who has long since passed.

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