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  • Jackrabbitslim
    Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 53

    #1

    123862

    Morning Gents,
    Got a bobbed Krag, former prop gun, faint marks from a front barrel band, and turned down at the muzzle for a bayonet. Curious if someone would check the books on it?
    1898 #123862
    Thanks!
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  • SMOKEY
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Sep 2009
    • 4524

    #2
    What I find on the net is it is a 99 model with just short of 104000 made in that serial number range
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    • dave
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6778

      #3
      How is it "bobbed", maybe the gun used to shot rabid dog in "Kill a Mocking Bird"! hehe.
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      • Jackrabbitslim
        Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 53

        #4
        104000? Does that mean they were not numbered sequentially?

        Edit: Doh! An hour later and a little Dr Bombay and I at last understand that you're saying that there were 104000 produced starting with the last serial number from 1898.
        Last edited by Jackrabbitslim; 09-01-2015, 02:24.
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        • Jackrabbitslim
          Member
          • Aug 2015
          • 53

          #5
          pics

          KINDLE_CAMERA_1441200070000.jpgKINDLE_CAMERA_1441200057000.jpgKINDLE_CAMERA_1441207029000.jpg
          Last edited by Jackrabbitslim; 09-01-2015, 02:19.
          "The men the American Public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who tell them the truth." HL Mencken

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          • jon_norstog
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3896

            #6
            Well, looks like you have a pretty good example of a Krag rifle that has "evolved" to the carbine configuration, which is perfect for that gun and caliber. Don't take it too seriously, take it to the range and/or hunting.

            Good luck!

            jn

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            • Jackrabbitslim
              Member
              • Aug 2015
              • 53

              #7
              Thanks Jon,
              Was under no illusions that a $200 beat to hell carbine was the ticket to early retirement!
              "The men the American Public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who tell them the truth." HL Mencken

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              • butlersrangers
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 533

                #8
                'jackrabbitslim' - The mounting of the front-sight base on the barrel gives this one away as not being original Springfield Armory work. A Krag carbine (and rifle) front sight base is almost invisibly dove-tailed and brazed into place (no ridges, lumps or bumps).

                It would be interesting to see some detailed photos of your rear sight. There could be a gem hiding there.

                Here is a photo of a 'movie prop' Krag and a photo of a Krag model 1899 front sight.

                gunga din 3.jpgkrag'99-blade.JPG

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                • Dick Hosmer
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5993

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SMOKEY
                  What I find on the net is it is a 99 model with just short of 104000 made in that serial number range
                  No, it is not an 1899 Model - those started in the low 220000 range. and are all so marked. That is either an 1898 carbine (serial number is possible) or a cut-off Model 1898 Rifle, which was once fitted up with full stock as a "school gun". The turned muzzle allows the fitting of a bayonet. The stock - whose date does not match the serial number - has been cut back so that the whole thing resembles a carbine. The rear sight appears to be a 1902C, which is a fairly scarce version. All that said, it looks to be in nice condition, and is WELL worth $200.

                  I'm guessing that your serial number data came from the Bowers LLC site? That info, at least in the Krag section, is seriously flawed.

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                  • Jackrabbitslim
                    Member
                    • Aug 2015
                    • 53

                    #10
                    Gentlemen,
                    Thank you for your insight!
                    "The men the American Public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who tell them the truth." HL Mencken

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                    • Rick the Librarian
                      Super Moderator
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6700

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dick Hosmer

                      I'm guessing that your serial number data came from the Bowers LLC site? That info, at least in the Krag section, is seriously flawed.
                      ...and not just for Krags - does a pretty lousy job on M1903s!
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                      • butlersrangers
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 533

                        #12
                        'Jackrabbitslim' - You are refreshingly objective about your 'bobbed' Krag. (Which you got for a good price BTW).

                        This is not how Springfield mounted a Krag front-sight base.

                        jackrabbit-krg.jpg

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                        • Jackrabbitslim
                          Member
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 53

                          #13
                          Aww, shucks!
                          "The men the American Public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who tell them the truth." HL Mencken

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