Krag Carbine Model 1896

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  • butlersrangers
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 533

    #31
    'loco_engr' - Looking at your first photos again, your altered Krag carbine stock is the replacement (circa 1900) 'long-forearm' type. These were replacement stocks, similar to the 1899 carbine stock and would lack a 'cartouche' and carbine sling-bar. They use the same barrel-band and longer hand-guards that were used on the model 1899 carbines.

    aaa-engr.jpg

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    • loco_engr
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 21

      #32
      Appreciate your input. About the 'carbine sling-bar', I do not see anything on the stock for any thing that might have been inletted, not counting around the barrel band for the locking bar (not sure of the correct name). I'd appreciate a pic of what you are referring too. The peep sight does have "Western" on it.

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      • butlersrangers
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 533

        #33
        Look back one page at my post on page 3. I posted a photo of the 1896 stock 'sling-bar'.

        Your stock has been 'sportered' from a later 'long forearm' carbine replacement stock, (circa 1900), and did not have a 'sling-bar', because the cavalry had gone to a saddle scabbard. There was no need for it to receive a 'cartouche stamp', because it was already accepted into service.

        In the early 1900s some model 1896 carbines were 'updated' to look more like model 1899 carbines (photo).

        (p.s. The main difference between rebuilt '96 carbines and model 1899 carbines is the '1896' action and the stock cut for its bolt-handle).

        krg'99carb-ed.jpg
        Last edited by butlersrangers; 04-15-2016, 09:44.

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        • butlersrangers
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 533

          #34
          IMHO: Your carbine 'morphed' - to summarize: The OP's Krag carbine started life as an 1896 carbine (photo #1).

          It was updated in the early 1900s with a 'long forearm' 1896 carbine replacement stock (photo#2).

          In the 1920s or 1930s it was 'sportered' for Hunting. The stock was thinned and 'checkered', the rear-
          sight and hand-guard were removed. The Western 'peep' sight and commercial front-blade were put on (photo #3).


          aaa '96 carb1.jpgaaa long fore.jpgaaa engr-0.jpg
          Last edited by butlersrangers; 04-15-2016, 10:16.

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          • loco_engr
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2016
            • 21

            #35
            Yep! Can't argue with that. So not so much a collectable, but a dang good shooter.
            Long time ago, while shooting at one of those orange sticky backed circles, app 31/4 inches diameter, standing, app. 25 yards, put a rd app. 1" inside at 10 o'clock.

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            • loco_engr
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2016
              • 21

              #36
              I appreciate everyones help & input.
              I'd be interested what would be a fair price to ask, 2 boxes of ammo included.
              Thanks All

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              • butlersrangers
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 533

                #37
                IMHO - Around $500 - parts value.

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                • loco_engr
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 21

                  #38
                  Thank You

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                  • Dick Hosmer
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5993

                    #39
                    Originally posted by butlersrangers
                    IMHO - Around $500 - parts value.
                    That's a LOT of money (IMHO) for what one would be getting, Chuck, even though I know you have a personal soft spot for Krag sporters.

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                    • butlersrangers
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 533

                      #40
                      You are probably correct, Dick. I was considering the 'Western' No Drill Sight worth $100, $30 for two boxes of ammo, and a 1896 carbine barrel & action worthy of possible restoration @ around $370. (We all know what a 'Money Pit' that is)!
                      Last edited by butlersrangers; 04-16-2016, 12:21.

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