Theodore Roosevelt Commemorative Match

[psteinmayer]

Howdy all...

Well, the Nationals were great fun, but now we're coming up on possibly the greatest match of all: One that has been (finally) designed and designated to assemble a group Krag shooters - the Theodore Roosevelt Commemorative Rifle Match.

I'll be there with my son, and a few other friends. I invite anyone who is going to meet up with us! We'll be there Saturday night before the match and would love to share a meal and some stories. Then, we can all meet at the Viale Range gate and squad together.

Who's going? Please let me know, and I'll find a great place for us to meet up for dinner!

This is going to be a GREAT match, and a lot of fun too!!!

Paul

[madsenshooter]

I am officially in, just got off the CMP website. A reminder to interested parties, pretty sure I read online registration ends the 8th.

[jon_norstog]

Maybe next year...

jn

[madsenshooter]

After considerable testing, I've decided to go with the load shown here: http://www.kragcollectorsassociation...num=1458778749 Jon, next year the Vintage and Roosevelt will be closer together, in August, so maybe you can catch both. Oh, and bring your Garand too, if you don't have one, you can use mine, but you'll have to shoot the unlimited class with it.

[psteinmayer]

Ok... For those who are heading to Camp Perry to shoot in the Roosevelt Match, I have some important information that I was made aware of this morning, and have confirmed with the CMP.

First of all, the match will be held on the Viale Range and first shot will be at 7:00 AM. Also, walk-ons may be possible (but don't quote me on this).

Now for the important info: The Welcome Center (which is where you will check in) will only be open from 6:00 AM to 12:00 PM Noon every day leading up to the match. Since squadding starts at 5:45 AM on Sunday, I would HIGHLY advise everyone not already checked in for other matches to arrive on Saturday before 11:00 AM and get checked in (your check-in for the National Matches does not cover the Legacy Matches). It would be a shame to miss this historic match because of missing the check-in!

[psteinmayer]

Howdy all,

Just received some more info from the CMP on the Roosevelt Match:

The match will be held on the Viale Range. There will be four relays, with 1 & 2 shooting first, and 3 & 4 pitting first. Squadding will start at 7:00 AM, and first shots will be at 8:00 AM. All shooting should be completed by noon.

Now, the information I received also stated that Krags, 1903s, AND 1903A3s will be permitted!

I'm still shooting my Krag!!! That's how Teddy Roosevelt would have had it...

Hope to see some of my Krag family on the line!

[madsenshooter]

Only 15 Krags out of 40 rifles on the line! Top Krag placed 5th in the match. No 03A3s to contend with in future Roosevelt matches. I need one of you guys that can really shoot to shoot my rifle, I know it it will do better than I can.

[M2Phil]

Only 15 Krags out of 40 rifles on the line! Top Krag placed 5th in the match. No 03A3s to contend with in future Roosevelt matches. I need one of you guys that can really shoot to shoot my rifle, I know it it will do better than I can.

It was a little surprising that A) so few people attended -57?-, and B) there were more supposedly disallowed M1903A3's than Krags. Which FP were you guys on?

[psteinmayer]

I was on 81 with my son. Bob was on 80 shooting with Randy Ent. There were also Krags on 79 and 82 beside us. It was sad that so few Krags showed up... and even sadder that so many A3s did! I, Randy, Bob, my son, and even those shooting on 82 were quite vocal about the allowance of the A3s in the match... and I think it was Randy who finally complained loud enough for them to separate the A3s in the scoring! Here's a few pictures:

Me
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Bob
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My son Ron
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Randy
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[M2Phil]

I think the scoring solution was handled fairly, and am glad that people spoke up about it, so Thanks! We were on 91, got to the line embarrassingly late (smack!) among other things, but had a great time regardless. The old granny from 1902 did not disappoint.

[madsenshooter]

I tried to talk them into letting me shoot my Krag in the Springfield match once, with the logic that it was made by Springfield Arsenal and says Springfield on it. That didn't float. But if I can't shoot my Krag in their match, why should they be allowed to shot their 03a3s in a match for Krags and 03s. But, if they get real specific, where's that leave Culpepper and his 95, or Lee Navy rifles? Anyway, here's a video Paul's son took with my camera. Must be something wrong with the contrast, my hair don't look that white when I look in the mirror! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYuCFjCuxEw

[psteinmayer]

You were next to a few friends if mine from western Michigan shooting on 90. I've been shooting with them for a few years now in local matches at KRGC in Kalamazoo, MI. One of them, David Graham was definitely shooting his Krag.

As for the match, I did fairly well initially, shooting a 96-1X in Slow Prone, and then pulled everything grouped low right for an 82-0X in Rapid. I fell apart in the Awful-Hand! I had a hard trigger on two which caused me to pull the barrel low and hit the berm, and then rushed a shot high for three misses, giving me a dismal 48-0X. All this for a whopping 226-1X! Oh well... next year, I'll take it by storm!!!

Wish I had known you were on 91... I would have said hi! Next year, maybe we can all get together afterwards with our Krags for a group photo!!!

[madsenshooter]

Never mind the photos, just get to the fish! LOL! Good stuff, even if they do come outta Lake Erie! That 130gr Special Ops bullet didn't seem to be so special at 200yds for me, it was like it would barely hold the bull, 8 out one side, then 8 out the other side or the same up and down. I only had one ten for the match, rest were 8s and 9s! No doubt a bit of it was me, but I usually hold pretty good from prone. Wound up with a 250, good for first position below middle of the pack. Works out the same if I only consider Krag scores.

[psteinmayer]

My friend Dave (shooting on FP 90) shot a 254-1X with his Krag... and was NOT happy with his results. At this point, I would be thrilled with the 254! If I had shot M2Phil's 270-1X... I would have required a change of undergarments! LOL

[M2Phil]

Great video! Those Steinmayer Krag chargers are slick! Viale makes everybody look grayer, balder, older, and fatter than they really are! Of course it doesn't help to be any (or all) of those things to begin with. The guys next to us (relays 3&4) were from MI, both shooting nice M1903's, one using a 1941 sniper with the scope removed. 96-1 slow prone shows what a Krag will do, in fine fashion, while 46-0 just shows there's truth in the phrase "Awful-hand", some days being "awfuller" than others! I shot a beautiful SMLE in Vintage two weeks ago and just stunk the place up with generally rotten shooting. The fumes are probably still lingering! We all probably walked right past one another several times, but there's always next year! I hope!