Early Inland sold for $6,625.00 on gun boards!

[rayg]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/778394106

Wow, lots of bucks.
I have an 1942 early Inland # 13961, with a 7-42 barrel date. Also made during the first few first months of manufacture, probably about Aug -Sept-Oct 42. with all early type 1 & 2 Inland parts, including flip rear sight, full serrated magazine release, checkered safety, and trigger housing retainer pin with the spring.. All correct, except the stock is the early I cut high wood with the IO and a small Ordinance Bomb in the sling recess but the Ordinance Bomb is on the side of the stock which happened about Oct-Nov 42. Not near as nice as the one sold but still a nice representative. As I am getting up in age I will be selling it, But for a lot less..LOL....Ray

[Tuna]

Ray, If your stock has the OI and a flaming bomb and the acceptance crossed cannon stamp in the sling well then it is correct for your serial number. Your serial number dates to about July/August time frame. As to value, well it's what ever someone is willing to pay for it like this last one. But I would not be surprised if yours doesn't come close to matching it.

[rayg]

Darn I wish it was like that one but mine is

"All correct, except the stock is the early I cut high wood with the IO and a small Ordinance Bomb in the sling recess but the Ordnance Bomb is on the side of the stock" But sorry I meant to say the Ordnance wheel, not bomb, is on the side of the stock. I wish the wheel was in the sling well. Still High wood and I cut but a couple months later, Ray

[RCS]

Not being a carbine collector but I have run into early parts/stocks, my question: I have seen early Inland stocks that had the LA
stamp inside. Where do these LA stocks begin in production ?

[Tuna]

Very early on in production for the IA marked stocks. But most were O, OI, or Ordnance bomb or Crossed cannon acceptance stamp marked and could be in combination with each other. To about the 30,000+ serial number range. Could Ray's stock be original to his carbine? Yes it could if for some reason the carbine was pulled out of production before being finished and later placed back into the line and received a later stock. But there is nothing to prove that. But still an early carbine.

[rayg]

I sold my whole gun book collection last year because of my advancing age but did keep a few books including Harrison's carbine book only because I have that 42 carbine and an also a 43 correct M1A1 carbine with three period appearing notches (kills?) in the pistol grip.
Anyway I have a couple of questions about my 42 carbine as it may have a couple of other later parts on it and the book is not very specific about some of the time changes of some of the parts. First, the book shows the trigger housing for a 42 Inland having the large hole in the side, do all 42 dated Inland carbine trigger housing have that hole? If not, about what time did they eliminate the hole? Second question, at what date/time did the "HI" stamp appear on the type B hammer? I'm guessing that these parts, along with the stock, may be a few months later then the serial number of the carbine. All the other partsappear to be period correct. The sear, the early slide w/the pinned slide stop, Mag release, and safety and the recoil plate. My cell phone is in the hospital being repaired or I would take some photos. Thanks, Ray

[Tuna]

Ray if the trigger housing has a hole in the side then it's an IP housing and not an Inland. Inland never used a locator hole to make the housing. Only IP did and later S'G'. To be honest with you Harrisons book is the worst book to have. It is so outdated and has quite a bit of bad data in it. A type B hammer would be the straight type marked HI would have been used from the fall of 1943 through 1944. Now if you mean the type 2 dogleg hammer then that was used from early 43 to the fall of 43. HI marked hammers were used from the beginning of production till the end of 44.

[rayg]

Some old file photos of the carbine.1942 M1 carbine-1.JPG1942 M1 carbine-1.JPG.JPG1942 M1 carbine-2.JPG1942 M1 carbine-3.JPG1942 M1 carbine-5.JPG

[rayg]

more photos

[Tuna]

Looking good Ray. A very early Inland and from your photos appears to be all correct.

[rayg]

This is my inventory listing I had of the carbine, I think it's pretty correct as to the carbine's description, Ray

A very early Inland manufacture carbine, serial # 13961, the barrel is dated 7-42. The carbine was made during the first few first months of manufacture of carbines probably about Aug - Oct 42. The carbines were not officially released for issue by the government until after final testing of Inland production samples was completed about September 1942. The carbine has all early type 1 & 2 Inland parts, including flip rear sight, full serrated magazine release, checkered safety, and the trigger housing retainer pin with the spring clip to secure the pin , unmarked 1st pattern sear. The stock is the early I cut high wood with the IO and a small Ordinance Bomb in the sling recess. A large Ordinance Bomb is on the side of the stock which was added about Oct-Nov 42. The hand guard is also stamped with an IO and ordinance bomb. Overall the gun is still in about Very Good condition and is complete with an original WWII period sling ink stamped S-S2, (quality hardware sling), oilier, and correct type I Inland magazine....
'Does it sound about right? Ray

[Tuna]

I think you covered it very well Ray.

[rayg]

Apparently the hammer on mine is a type I and not a type II according to an old M1 Carbine association thread that was on here a few years ago with carbine info and that has a break down of the parts. The only thing that might be a bit out of date would be the stock. And that might still fit within the assembly period, http://uscarbinecal30.com/.1942 M1 carbine-25.JPG Ray

[rayg]

By the way, Tuna, thank you for your responses to my questions.. In checking back for about four or five years of posts on this carbine forum, I see that you have been very active and help full in responding to questions and providing good information regarding the carbine to posters. Thank you for your knowledge and participation in the forum as. Ray

[Tuna]

Yes Ray, your type 1 hammer is correct for your carbine as it should be. Your very welcome for the information I have and do not mind sharing it with others. I am NOT an expert on carbines as there are others with much more knowledge then me but I will help if I can unlike others I know.