.30 carbine ammo?

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  • gmg1183
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 79

    #1

    .30 carbine ammo?

    I picked up some loose .30 carb. ammo from a older gentleman the other day. With wcc43,44 wra52, LC52,& LC4 date codes on them. Can someone tell me what year the LC4 would be? Also there were a few LC56 and they look like steel casings, what years did they use the steel casings?
    T.I.A.
    Steve
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
  • raymeketa
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 884

    #2
    LC4 is Lake City 1944. Steel cased ammunition was made as early as 1943 and was made, off and on, by different manufacturers until the late 1950s - and maybe longer. I can't speak to foreign made cartridges.

    Ray

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    • gmg1183
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 79

      #3
      Thanks Ray, I was kind of thinking that LC4 might be 1944.
      "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

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      • joem
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 11835

        #4
        If you plan to reload you may find some crimped primer pockets on WCC.

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        • gmg1183
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 79

          #5
          Joem
          I noticed on the WRA 52 some extreme 4 point type crimps on it.
          Thanks for the heads up.
          "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

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          • joem
            Senior Member, Deceased
            • Aug 2009
            • 11835

            #6
            It's not a big problem as I have the Dillon swedge. Just one more step.

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            • Greg H. in Virginia
              Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 57

              #7
              A counter-sink bit chucked in a cordless screwdriver works very well also. A quick few turns and you're good to go.
              Working in corrections can be good experience for a young person, if you know when to quit!

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              • Tuna
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2686

                #8
                Out of all the companies making carbine ammo for the government during WW2 and through the Korean war, only Winchester (WRA) and Western (WCC) used a crimp on the primers.

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                • PhillipM
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5937

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gmg1183
                  I picked up some loose .30 carb. ammo from a older gentleman the other day. With wcc43,44 wra52, LC52,& LC4 date codes on them. Can someone tell me what year the LC4 would be? Also there were a few LC56 and they look like steel casings, what years did they use the steel casings?
                  T.I.A.
                  Steve
                  LC 52 may be chicom counterfeit ammo.

                  Chink on the left, it's berdan primed and corrosive.



                  Chinese 2nd from left with larger extractor groove.

                  Last edited by PhillipM; 02-24-2013, 09:53.
                  Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                  "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                  • kcw
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1173

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gmg1183
                    Thanks Ray, I was kind of thinking that LC4 might be 1944.
                    As an war time expedient, ammo plant operators were allowed to make use of outdated tooling by grinding off one number.

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