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  • mitchell6776
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 101

    #1

    True story, happened this week...

    Perusing gun broker and came across a nice looking late featured inland M1 listing.. Serial number in the 7 million, with M2 marked receiver, 45 dated barrel. A legitimate inland M2. The seller was a pawn shop in Jonesboro, AR who had no idea what it was. It was purchased by them as part of a large collection. The seller had purchased it years ago in an estate sale. I alerted the seller to the issue by email . I called the ATF with the serial number and was told it was not in the registry. I called the pawn shop today and asked them about it. Fortunately they read my email (never got a response) and contacted the ATF. They told me they had buyer pleading with them to end the auction early as the reserve was met. This beautiful piece of history came to an inglorious, although legal, end today when they sawed it in half. .. I am buying the barrel, stock, and small parts however, so not all is lost.
    Here is the ended auction.
    https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/878732931
  • Johnny P
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 6269

    #2
    Another case of the absolute stupidity of some gun laws. The only difference being whether the receiver received a 1 or a 2. Years ago I saw one at a small gun show with the MII Stamped receiver and NRA/DCM sales papers. I told the owner what it was, but didn't call the ATF.

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    • Sunray
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3251

      #3
      Yep. Your unelected civil servants at the ATF decided long ago that an M2 receiver is FA with their 'Once an MG, always an MG' idiocy.
      They ran around confiscating surplused M14 receivers without compensation, as I recall, several years ago. You need to scream at your elected representatives about unelected civil servants being allowed to make law by regulation.
      "...stupidity of some gun laws..." This one, the unelected civil servants being allowed to make law one, is the GCA of 1968. The worst part is that our idiots copied the 'Once an MG, always an MG' idiocy.
      Spelling and grammar count!

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      • Hal O'Peridol
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 929

        #4
        So, why was this any of your business?
        Enfield, everything else is just a rifle. Unless it's a Garand.

        Long pig, it's what's for Dinner!

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11297

          #5
          Originally posted by Hal O'Peridol
          So, why was this any of your business?
          +1

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          • mitchell6776
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 101

            #6
            Are you asking me why it was any of my business? I believe in helping people when they clearly are making an honest mistake that could cost them dearly in legal terms. I guess you don't...

            I did not rat them out the ATF. I only asked if the carbine was on the registry, and gave the ATF no additional information. I passed this along to the seller and advised them what they should do. They were free at that point to make their own decision. They were very appreciative of my help, by the way. If it had been registered, I was going to buy it, and offer them what it was really worth- another reason why it was my business.

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            • Hal O'Peridol
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 929

              #7
              Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
              Enfield, everything else is just a rifle. Unless it's a Garand.

              Long pig, it's what's for Dinner!

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              • mitchell6776
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 101

                #8
                Originally posted by Hal O'Peridol
                Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.
                Don't worry, I'm not. I absolutely did the right thing, and most people reading this would agree. You, however, come across as a jackass.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11297

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mitchell6776
                  Don't worry, I'm not. I absolutely did the right thing, and most people reading this would agree. You, however, come across as a jackass.
                  please read the rules in this forum,

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                  • mitchell6776
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 101

                    #10
                    One more thing before you post another witty retort- The point of my post was not to "pat myself on the back". I always thought the "I went to buy an M1 carbine and it was marked M2" stories were somewhat apocryphal, and never really happened. Up to 10 years in prison and 250K fine for selling an unregistered machine gun is not something most people are interested in. The fact that the end result of this was the prompt destruction of the rifle illustrates the absurdity of some of the laws, as other people pointed out.

                    We could go back and forth with this ad infinitum. My posts speak to the type of person I am. Your's speak to the type of person you are. I think we are very different.

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                    • JOHN COOK
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 711

                      #11
                      How many of you knew that the poster , HAL O’PERIDOL’ was actually a medication to help treat schizophrenia and some other mental problems. Hmm maybe there is a problem here...

                      John in SC
                      “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11297

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JOHN COOK
                        How many of you knew that the poster , HAL O’PERIDOL’ was actually a medication to help treat schizophrenia and some other mental problems. Hmm maybe there is a problem here...

                        John in SC
                        I know him fairly well, why?

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                        • JOHN COOK
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 711

                          #13
                          Seems a Little odd to use medication as a user name. No offense intended..

                          John in SC
                          “Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” (Luke 22:36)

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11297

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JOHN COOK
                            Seems a Little odd to use medication as a user name. No offense intended..

                            John in SC
                            know of a guy on another forum (gunboards) that goes by Paddy O'Furniture,

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                            • M1C
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 25

                              #15
                              M2s pop up several per year. It's not unusal. This isn't the first one on GB in the past year. Not a good situation all the way around.
                              It probably would've been better to not post the story and just advise people to pull the slide back on a Carbine to look for the M2 stamp. Also that if you're looking at a 7 million serial that is is POSSIBLE that it's an M2 whether stamped or not.

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