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  • Mike R.
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 35

    #1

    No longer semi auto?

    Can a standard carbine gas piston be removed and a plug installed to make the carbine a single shot weapon ? Will this cause any damage to any part of the carbine ? Is there a plug to fit the gas piston threads ? Thanks for any info or help.
  • mike24d20
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1065

    #2
    Why ruin a good carbine when you can just load one round at a time? Better to ask a Good Qualified gun smith like DGR or Chuckindenver. Reason beign that if you do a BUBBA JOB you might get a face full of slide in your kisser. Be safe
    AIM TRUE, YOU MIGHT HIT THE TARGET:

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    • kcw
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 1173

      #3
      I simply cut enough off the rear end of a gas piston so that there wasn't enough "throw" to engage the end of the slide. That effectively made it into a straight pull bolt action.

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      • joem
        Senior Member, Deceased
        • Aug 2009
        • 11835

        #4
        Originally posted by Mike R.
        Can a standard carbine gas piston be removed and a plug installed to make the carbine a single shot weapon ? Will this cause any damage to any part of the carbine ? Is there a plug to fit the gas piston threads ? Thanks for any info or help.
        I must ask, why would you do that?

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        • Mike R.
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 35

          #5
          I would do this because the state in which I live is probably going to pass a law making my semi auto M1 carbine an "assault rifle" and require me to get a permit to own it.

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          • tizzi88
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 42

            #6
            Two choices:
            1. Vote the incumbents out, or
            2. Move
            For what it's worth; merely changing a part to make an semi-auto a single shot won't change the ability for someone to change it back. Just like an M2 carbine without the critcal components is still a full-auto rifle.
            My thoughts.

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            • joem
              Senior Member, Deceased
              • Aug 2009
              • 11835

              #7
              Tizzi88 could be correct. It will depend how the law is written and if there is a grandfather clause.

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              • Dolt
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 543

                #8
                Or you could just say "no"
                Read, think, UNDERSTAND, comment

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                • StockDoc
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 1189

                  #9
                  Don't think you can get a permit, wait till the law is passed and see what happens. See what the description will be, maybe a bullet button will suffice. Build a bullet button design and become well off.
                  liberum aeternum

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                  • 1mark
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 390

                    #10
                    If your state classifies the M1 Carbine as an "assault weapon" than making it a single shot will not do anything. It is still an M1 Carbine and it can be fixed to semi auto again. If you need a permit than just get one that is if they pass the law.
                    "Three people can keep a secret as long as two of them are dead" Mark Twain

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                    • Chris W.
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 357

                      #11
                      What state are we talking about here ??
                      Chris

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                      • bug
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 122

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mike R.
                        I would do this because the state in which I live is probably going to pass a law making my semi auto M1 carbine an "assault rifle" and require me to get a permit to own it.
                        Wait til it happens. If it does then get the permit. Don't alter the gun.

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                        • Sunray
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3251

                          #13
                          "...making my semi auto M1 carbine an "assault rifle..." Done Federally by ITAR already. However, I don't think anybody is making gas plugs commercially. You'd need a machinist. Doesn't do anything bad to change the piston to a solid plug. Turns the carbine into a straight pull bolt action or a pump with an added part to the forestock.
                          Mind you, like 1mark says, it may not matter if the law is worded stupidly. We have that sort of thing up here. Our stupid law says, "...or any variant..." for some rifles that got declared evil.
                          Spelling and grammar count!

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                          • Chris W.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 357

                            #14
                            Might also be a problem calling a carbine a " Assault Rifle " due to the fact the BATF has already classified all of the originals as C&R rifles. Stranger things have happened, could somehow limit the mag size to less than 10 rounds as California has done. Interesting side note is that if you owned original magazines prior to the ban with your rifle, they are still legal even in California, just can't sell, trade or give them away to anyone in that state. Same thing goes for any high capacity mag there owned before the ban, they are grandfathered. Don't think any state lawmakers would want the hassle of fighting over the Curio and Relic status the BATF has already given, might make for a interesting court case. In this case I also can't imagine the BATF changing it's status to satisfy some state law.
                            Chris

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                            • kcw
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1173

                              #15
                              The devil would be in the details of the law. Does the law deem that "once a semi-auto, always a semi auto" (as is the AFT's position on full auto guns) or will the state law allow a semi to be "permanently" modified (ie filling the pocket for the gas plug with weld) to make it a straight pull bolt gun?

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