very rare m1 carbine

[kcw]

I'm thinking that if the parts in the trigger group are stamped with any of the various USGI maker marks, then it's probably a USGI carbine that has been "Bubba'd" roughly to the pattern the HOWA commercial product.( I'm assuming that HOWA made their own parts with whatever company stamps they might place on them). The carbine pictured at the website indicated in my 1st post has what appears to be Williams open sight on its barrel, not the HOWA ramp sight shown in the HOWA 300 owner's manual. It's possible too that a small domestic shop made up a very limited number of these HOWA 300 pattern guns, respective to having the rear sight of some sort on the barrel, using USGI carbines. It was a common practice back in the 1950's & 60's to try and convert surplus military guns into something resembling a commercial product. For example, an M1917 U.S. Enfield could have no higher calling than to be tricked out to look like one of the commercial Model 30 Remington variants.

[papadura6969]

outstanding explanation.....now, it does have a mark in the inside of the slider wich is "P1" or "PI" and in the outside there is another mark "C" and a number and under the barrel there is a bunch of letters and numbers disorderly place : H Y 2 M and two number 2 upsidedows kinda wird.....

[Allen]

What keeps the barreled action from recoiling out of the stock when you fire it. Traditional carbines have the upper handguard with the barrel band to secure the action?

[Tuna]

The barrel and slide are both Inland. There is a good chance the receiver is Inland too. Howa did not mark parts on any of their carbines. In fact the military ones made for Thailand, the only marking is an H on the bottom of the barrel. The commercial carbines are marked Howa. I think the screw for the front sling swivel attaches to something that is attached to the barrel.

[kcw]

outstanding explanation.....now, it does have a mark in the inside of the slider wich is "P1" or "PI" and in the outside there is another mark "C" and a number and under the barrel there is a bunch of letters and numbers disorderly place : H Y 2 M and two number 2 upsidedows kinda wird.....

I believe that PI stamped slides were made by Inland, one of the WWII contractors.

[papadura6969]

There is a ring with a thread that goes in the barrel and a bolt that goes through the handguard:::I will send pics...

[papadura6969]

this is how the barrel stays in place after the recoil.

[papadura6969]

These are the weird markings under the barrel....

[Johnny in Texas]

PAPADURA6969 what you have is what is known as a sporterized M1 carbine. Sporterized is a term that means to take a military rifle and remove extra weight and modify parts and finish to make it look more like a commercial hunting rifle. I use the term BUDDA-IZED meaning done in someone's garage. BUBBA-TYPE instead of proto-type is a one of a kind spoterized rifle done with questionable skill at gunsmithing. Since your carbine functions well I would leave it as is.
Thanks for posting!

[Allen]

I have 3 IP carbines. Unfortunately one of them has been blued. It's hard to find guns that have survived so many years w/o some type of modification such as initials carved in the stock, SS numbers scribed into the metal, miss-matched parts from arsenal rebuilds, refinishing and in your case sporterized.

[papadura6969]

Thanks to all of you for the usefull comments and advices that make gun enthusiast do it better and safer, now I now it is a fantastic gun made in America, I´ve been watching some reviews in youtube and it´s interesting how many gun experts prefer this rifle over others of higher power........Thanks again.

[papadura6969]

Thanks Johnny in Texas for that explanation.....I´ll keep in mind your professional advice.....

[Johnny in Texas]

No matter the configuration you have a nice USGI M1 Carbine made during WWII. While the monetary value was reduced by the modifications made, the sentimental value is I'm sure more than I could afford.
Thanks for sharing!

What Country are in?

[papadura6969]

you are right the sentimental value is a top and been part of the history makes this gun a keeper specially if it is part of the WWII and as an avid admirer of that war I will cherish it with pride of been a fine piece of American industry......

Born rise and live in El Salvador with pride and joy, but love the US, I lived there for a couple of years and it was an awesome experience, fine american people.

[3589]

This was a very enjoyable post , it was an honor to read it.

Bob