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  • SPEEDGUNNER
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 729

    #1

    Late, late, late winchester

    Has anyone seen this Winchester carbine on GB? It looks to be almost flat new. I am surprised it hasn't gone higher.

    Here is the Auction # 407617853
    Last edited by SPEEDGUNNER; 04-12-2014, 06:28.
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    A race that can't stay still;
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  • Tuna
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2686

    #2
    Your link doesn't work. But all of the Winchester carbines listed on GB are bad restorations or rebuilt.
    Last edited by Tuna; 04-12-2014, 06:11.

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    • jimb
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 375

      #3
      I can't figure out which one you are talking about. Give the auction number.

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      • Mike Josephic
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 777

        #4
        Here's the link:

        http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=407617853

        Doesn't look right to me for many reasons -- but I'm no expert on carbines.

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        • joem
          Senior Member, Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 11835

          #5
          for the kind of money their asking I'd expect a sling, oiler and bayonet.

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          • jim c 351
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 169

            #6
            Originally posted by Tuna
            Your link doesn't work. But all of the Winchester carbines listed on GB are bad restorations or rebuilt.
            Tuna,
            If all of the carbines listed on GB are restored or rebuilt, then where can we find the factory original carbines listed for sale????????????
            Jim C

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            • Tuna
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2686

              #7
              The only originals that one will find are bring backs by vets. There are none left in as made shape as they were all issued to US troops over the years or they went overseas. A few of the old DCM carbines were as made but those are long gone into collections. They do surface now and then but you have to know your carbines to be sure of what your getting. This one that is linked to has something about it that isn't quite right for a carbine made about June 1945 and I cannot quite put my finger on it yet. I do know the front sight has been off the carbine and from the pictures I cannot tell if it is a Winchester sight or not. The butt plate is not tight against the stock and it should be by now. The Z stamp on the grip is a possible rebuild stamp. Not known for sure. I will have to pull out my 6.6 range when I can get a chance and compare it to this one.

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              • jimb
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 375

                #8
                Tuna....take a look at the feed ramp. Its parked. What does that say to you? And the crossed cannon doesn't look quite right, but I can't tell because of the lack of a close-up. The oiled stock looks too under oiled to be right. I agree with you. Something doesn't look right about this carbine.

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                • Doug Douglass
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2264

                  #9
                  Total rebuild....buyer beware

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                  • Johnny in Texas
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 2201

                    #10
                    The texture of the metal finish is wrong like it has been sand blasted. Original Winchesters never looked like that. Stock has same problem too rough of surface texture.
                    Last edited by Johnny in Texas; 04-14-2014, 09:17.

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                    • bug
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 122

                      #11
                      Can anyone make out the SN? My tired eyes can not.

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                      • Tuna
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2686

                        #12
                        Bug, It is in the 6.59 million range about May 1945.

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                        • boykin
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 188

                          #13
                          Damn, you boys are good!! All that from pictures too! It is not true however that the only original carbines are vet bring backs. Don't know where that tid bit of info came from.

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                          • bug
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 122

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tuna
                            Bug, It is in the 6.59 million range about May 1945.
                            I get all excited when I hear 6,6. I have a 6,624 with DCM paperwork that makes me smile...

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                            • Tuna
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2686

                              #15
                              The only all original as made carbines that were not vet bring backs were the very few that were sold by DCM in the early 60's that had not be rebuilt. Most of the DCM carbines had at least a partial rebuild and with most being completely rebuilt. If you find an original as made carbine the odds are it's a vet bring back.

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