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  • ziomanno
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 13

    #1

    M1A1: help needed

    Hello to you all from Italy;
    I've been offered to swap a matching K98 with a M1A1 Inland carbine in the 5.260.000 range with 6/44 barrel.
    I got few pics, not really detailed, but by them I recognize an high wood stock, a type I barrel band, round blued bolt and a type III rear sight marked IRCO 7160060 (or something like that).
    An important feature is that the carbine is NOT import marked, and this circumstance means that she was in Italy before 1975; so it's highly possible that she was here during WWII (kind of "vet left back" gun).
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    Last edited by ziomanno; 02-27-2016, 04:26.
  • ziomanno
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 13

    #2
    I would like to know your opinions on this carbine; I'm not an expert, but I find some early features (stock, barrel band) among late ones (type III rear sight).
    Any help/imput will be really appreciated.
    Than is in advance.
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    • Tuna
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2686

      #3
      It's a nice carbine BUT the stock is not quite right. At one time the stock had a type 2 or a type 3 barrel band on it so it is not original to the carbine itself or someone has changed the barrel band. The rear sight I think may be a bit too new for your serial number. More likely to have a PI, HI or I.R.Co. marked rear sight. The I.R. Co. 7160060 stamped sight came out a little while later.
      Last edited by Tuna; 02-27-2016, 07:10.

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      • dave
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 6778

        #4
        Would that sight even be on a 'left behind' carbine?
        You can never go home again.

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        • ziomanno
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 13

          #5
          Originally posted by dave
          Would that sight even be on a 'left behind' carbine?
          Well, this is the question; is this sight consistent with WWII Inland production? I have to exclude a US arsenal postwar refurb. But it is also true that no more US paratroopers were in Italy after the June 44, so who could have been issued with this M1A1? Maybe partisans via OSS?
          Last edited by ziomanno; 02-27-2016, 11:42.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            The Photo's don't show the rivets very clear but they don't look right to me from what I can see of them. Would need a close up to better tell, Ray

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            • ziomanno
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 13

              #7
              Originally posted by Tuna
              It's a nice carbine BUT the stock is not quite right. At one time the stock had a type 2 or a type 3 barrel band on it so it is not original to the carbine itself or someone has changed the barrel band.
              Good point here; thanks Tuna

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              • ziomanno
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 13

                #8
                This is the same pic above, just bigger
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                • rayg
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 7444

                  #9
                  Looks good now, Ray

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                  • BrianQ
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 273

                    #10
                    If you can post a picture of the bottom of the stock where the barrel band is.

                    BTW, the rear sight is correct for your serial number.

                    Also, M1A1 Carbines were not just issued to the just Airborne units.

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                    • ziomanno
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 13

                      #11
                      Thanks Brian, nice inputs; I'll try to get more pics from the seller.

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