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  • Merc
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1690

    #1

    M1 loading difficulty

    I watched two guys at a range trying to load a full clip into a M1 today and they weren't having much luck. I'd say they got it about half way into the mag. And they began pushing on it and hammering on it with their fists. And there it stuck. Wouldn't go in and it wouldn't come out. I might add that the rifle in general appeared to be in rough shape. Grew weary of watching the abuse and left. So, what could cause this condition?
  • Litt'le Lee
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 653

    #2
    would guess assembled incorrectly

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    • IditarodJoe
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1529

      #3
      With the available information, I'd say Litt'le Lee's guess is a pretty good one. Given all of the correct parts, there aren't very many ways to assemble a Garand action incorrectly and still get everything to fit together. I'd bet that if an experienced person took a look, the problem would quickly be obvious.
      Last edited by IditarodJoe; 02-21-2017, 07:03.
      "They've took the fun out of running the race. You never see a campfire anywhere. There's never any time for visiting." - Joe Redington Sr., 1997

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      • psteinmayer
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 1527

        #4
        Sounds about right to me too!
        "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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        • cab308
          Junior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 25

          #5
          In my experience at CMP clinics 90% of the time when the clip will not go in it's due to a long seated round in the clip. It's the first thing I check.
          CecilB

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          • High Plaines Doug r
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 267

            #6
            Could be they were using European made clips and GI or early HXP ammunition. The extractor groove in GI and earlier HXP ammo is not as tall as the groove in 7.62 NATO ammo. The later, Euro enblock clips repositioned the rail that catches the extractor groove. In any case, some of the Euro clips interfere with GI brass with the shorter groove on GI style cases and spreads the clip enough to interfere with loading.

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            • tmark
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1900

              #7
              Could be something from the follower on down to the fork could have something bent out of spec or an extremely dirty rifle.

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              • Merc
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 1690

                #8
                Originally posted by tmark
                Could be something from the follower on down to the fork could have something bent out of spec or an extremely dirty rifle.
                The M1 appeared to be in rough shape. The way they were handling it could have bent something. Hard to watch.

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                • psteinmayer
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1527

                  #9
                  Sounds like a couple (wanna be) experts trying to prove their dominance at the range, and looking very bad at doing it, LOL Maybe it was best that they couldn't get it loaded!
                  "I was home... What happened? What the Hell Happened?" - MM1 Jacob Holman, USS San Pablo

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                  • Merc
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 1690

                    #10
                    Originally posted by psteinmayer
                    Sounds like a couple (wanna be) experts trying to prove their dominance at the range, and looking very bad at doing it, LOL Maybe it was best that they couldn't get it loaded!
                    Probably right. The old boy looked as if it's seen it's share of abuse.

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