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  • louis
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 419

    #1

    Winchester garand

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    Have this lightly stamped Winchester with a redone number any remarks?

    Thank you
    Last edited by louis; 10-28-2019, 02:44.
  • Major Tom
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 6181

    #2
    Well, I would pass on buying it.
    Last edited by Major Tom; 10-28-2019, 04:39. Reason: spelling

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    • Marty T.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 491

      #3
      Story kind of along the same lines. I looked at an M1 few years back that had the original S/N ground off and a new one etched on. This was in a gun shop and when questioned about it, the story was that the police dept. had ground off the numbers and put the new ones on. Hmmm. When questioned that the POLICE did it, he stuck with the story. I passed too.

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #4
        Originally posted by Marty T.
        Story kind of along the same lines. I looked at an M1 few years back that had the original S/N ground off and a new one etched on. This was in a gun shop and when questioned about it, the story was that the police dept. had ground off the numbers and put the new ones on. Hmmm. When questioned that the POLICE did it, he stuck with the story. I passed too.
        I think in the future I would pass on that gun shop too.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11268

          #5
          hard to say by that pic,,
          however it looks like it was welded over and restamped,

          hard pass, unless it was cheap cheap cheap, (ETA, as in worth the value of the other parts)


          FWIW, we had a M1C in the shop many moons ago,

          someone had filed or milled off the serial number (deeply, and nicely done, not like bubba with a dremil)
          no idea why, guessing it was stolen out of an armory or ???

          anyhow, we sent pics to the ATF technical branch, and they allowed us to have another serial number applied (we had it engraved on the side) and made a copy of the letter for the next buyer,



          not to many years ago I picked up a collection that had a 1903 Colt Auto in it,
          the serial number area was off a different finish, and the serial number was in a different font than Colt would have used,

          so I sent a pic to our local office, a few weeks later I got a reply and was told all was good, no worries, sell it,

          so we did
          Last edited by lyman; 10-28-2019, 06:10.

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          • Gun Smoke
            Banned
            • Sep 2019
            • 1658

            #6
            Originally posted by louis
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            Have this lightly stamped Winchester with a redone number any remarks?

            Thank you
            The keyword here is "Have".

            Do you own this rifle already or thinking about making a purchase?

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            • louis
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 419

              #7
              Gun Smoke, neither I should have said have a photo of.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #8
                Originally posted by louis
                Gun Smoke, neither I should have said have a photo of.
                with respect, that photo is horrible,

                any way to get a better view?

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                • louis
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 419

                  #9
                  Lyman, no I don’t have this rifle available to me to take more photos.

                  - - - Updated - - -

                  I know the military had changed some garand rifle numbers I’m assuming because they had Springfield and WRA with the same serial numbers.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #10
                    Originally posted by louis
                    Lyman, no I don’t have this rifle available to me to take more photos.

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                    I know the military had changed some garand rifle numbers I’m assuming because they had Springfield and WRA with the same serial numbers.
                    if so, they were not done that way,

                    they were normally marked with an additional A

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                    • P51MUSTANG
                      Member
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 95

                      #11
                      Would take a hard pass....

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                      • Orlando
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 312

                        #12
                        Originally posted by louis
                        Lyman, no I don’t have this rifle available to me to take more photos.

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                        I know the military had changed some garand rifle numbers I’m assuming because they had Springfield and WRA with the same serial numbers.
                        All was done was the letter A etched at end of serial.

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                        • louis
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 419

                          #13
                          Actually not all of them were marked with an A. I’ve seen photos here a few years back was interesting.

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                          • Orlando
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 312

                            #14
                            yes but I do not believe any were ground off and restamped. They were only etched A if two rifles with same serial were together, otherwise there was no reason to.

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                            • louis
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 419

                              #15
                              No the photos I’ve seen here on this site during a discussion about this same subject were a few photos of redone serial numbers with no A. This was a few years ago but this I remember that is why I posted this photo.

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