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  • Hecklerusp45
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1174

    #1

    Springfield vs springfield inc.

    I have had a chance to see one of the Garands made by Springfield Inc (non military issue) but I would assume it should be possible or even easy to tell it from a military issue springfield, am I correct?
    "In God We Trust"
  • k arga
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 566

    #2
    I think it should say springfield inc on the rec and the ser no will be 7,000,000 up.
    think that's right.
    kurt

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    • Johnny P
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6269

      #3
      Haven't seen that many, but alll I have seen were over 7 million serial number, and all were GI parts other than receiver.

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      • Carbine64
        Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 70

        #4
        Springfield Armory would have them at Camp Perry during the National Matches all were in the 7 million range.This would be around 2000 to 2005,after that I do not remember seeing the rifles at Springfield.Over the years I have ran on to them at gun shows and gun shops.Most do not understand they are not Real M1 Garands. One of our members has one and will shoot it our club matches. He upgraded it a few years ago with a new barrel after about 5000 rounds.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11297

          #5
          it will have the trademark logo beside the name just like the M1A's do,

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          • clintonhater
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 5220

            #6
            Originally posted by lyman
            it will have the trademark logo beside the name just like the M1A's do,
            I.e., a fake. How has it been legally possible, I've always wondered, to expropriate such an illustrious name & institution as "Springfield Armory" for commercial exploitation?

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11297

              #7
              Originally posted by clintonhater
              I.e., a fake. How has it been legally possible, I've always wondered, to expropriate such an illustrious name & institution as "Springfield Armory" for commercial exploitation?
              Reese or maybe Elmer Ballance registered the Trademark?


              eta, from Wiki


              Elmer C. Ballance began using the name "Springfield Armory" through his company (LH Manufacturing) dedicated to the first civilian production of the M14 rifle, calling it the M1A. Ballance began in San Antonio, Texas, and soon after moved to Devine, Texas, where the company gained momentum and popularity. In 1974, Ballance sold the company to the Reese family, who had a well-established production shop in Illinois and experience base. The company then expanded its market into other firearms, including the M1911. After further success, the company began to branch into even more types of firearms. The company, now run by Dennis Reese (formerly along with his brother Tom Reese), manufactures and imports dozens of different firearms in many styles and models. The company has previously (as late as 2017) used a motto, "The First Name in American Firearms", in reference to the original and operationally unrelated Springfield Armory of Springfield, Massachusetts, which was founded in 1777 and closed in 1968.[2] Those two dates are included in a timeline on the company's website, which notes that in 1974 "a passionate family by the name of Reese rescued" the Springfield Armory name.[3]
              Last edited by lyman; 05-09-2020, 06:32.

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #8
                Originally posted by lyman
                Reese or maybe Elmer Ballance registered the Trademark?
                That begs the question of how the name of a governmental agency & national institution can become, or rather degenerate into, a commercial trademark. If so, why can't "U.S. Army" or "USMC" be registered as trademarks? I'm well aware that famous trademarks are, unfortunately, bought & sold like any other commodity, but it's inconceivable to me how the name of a gov't agency falls into the same category.

                I've always been disgusted by the shameless hutzpah of exploiting the illustrious name & history of SA for personal profit, & reading in the above Wiki that this "passionate family" is attempting to conflate the history of their company with the history of SA makes me even more contemptuous of them.

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                • bruce
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3759

                  #9
                  It is not difficult to tell the difference between a USGI M-1 Garand produced by Springfield Armory and a commercial M-1 Garand produced by Springfield Inc. The receiver stampings tell everything one needs to know to make the distinction. Sincerely. bruce.
                  " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11297

                    #10
                    Originally posted by clintonhater
                    That begs the question of how the name of a governmental agency & national institution can become, or rather degenerate into, a commercial trademark. If so, why can't "U.S. Army" or "USMC" be registered as trademarks? I'm well aware that famous trademarks are, unfortunately, bought & sold like any other commodity, but it's inconceivable to me how the name of a gov't agency falls into the same category.

                    I've always been disgusted by the shameless hutzpah of exploiting the illustrious name & history of SA for personal profit, & reading in the above Wiki that this "passionate family" is attempting to conflate the history of their company with the history of SA makes me even more contemptuous of them.
                    not sure,

                    likely since the National Armories are shut down,

                    Rock Island Armory is another trademarked name,

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Frankford Arsenal

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                      • Major Tom
                        Very Senior Member - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6181

                        #12
                        All of the Springfield, Inc. "garands" I've handled all were stocked by Boyds Gun Stocks. Those were some really clunky stocks having generous wood overhang around the butt plate and receiver. All were priced well over what CMP was getting for a genuine M1 Garand.

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