m14 , civilian sales ?

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  • satan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 222

    #1

    m14 , civilian sales ?

    hi , I was recently told that the cmp sold semi auto 14 thru the cmp in the pre 1968 gun control act , these were former military m14 with the selector switch welded for competition, similar to the M1 Nm rifles is true?


    and how many were sold
  • nf1e
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 2122

    #2
    No. M14s were still issue weapons at the time and there was no CMP.

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    • Scott Wilson
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 507

      #3
      Some years ago welded M14 rifles were made available to gun clubs for use in sanctioned matches. It is my understanding that these rifles were all re-called to be put back into service.

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      • satan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 222

        #4
        welded as in the selector switches where welded ?

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        • Scott Wilson
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 507

          #5
          Yes.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11266

            #6
            sear welded, or the selector removed and the button welded,

            they were released to clubs and competitors for years,

            then in the late 90's or early 2000's they all got recalled,

            about the time the AR took over Service Rifle/High Power,

            most went Smith or another vendor and were rebuilt to serve in the GWOT,

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            • nf1e
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 2122

              #7
              Never were sold by the CMP though.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10580

                #8
                Would be easier to just grind off the small lug on the bottom of the receiver to that of an M1A receiver. 1/8" x 5/8". I've heard that's what Canada did with surplus M14's.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11266

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nf1e
                  Never were sold by the CMP though.
                  correct,

                  loaned to State Team members thru the old DCM then CMP program,

                  know a few guys that had one and went Distinguised on them

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                  • JimF
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1179

                    #10
                    Ahh yes! . . . . .those were the days!

                    Can you imagine this? . . . .

                    Some of the M14 NM rifles that were loaned to the Rhode Island club . . . .WENT UNUSED!!
                    (My cousin DID use one, but MANY went unused!)

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                    • Johnny P
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6258

                      #11
                      The old DCM was changed to CMP in 1996.

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                      • satan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 222

                        #12
                        ok , were any M14 sold under the DCM ??

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11266

                          #13
                          none that I am aware of

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                          • Embalmer
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 932

                            #14
                            None sold by dcm/cmp. Though trw did make a few semiautomatic only "NM" m14s that a few made way to hands of civilians. Last one I saw sold went for $$$
                            Last edited by Embalmer; 07-11-2023, 07:03.

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                            • Art
                              Senior Member, Deceased
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9256

                              #15
                              The "will the government ever release M14 rifles come up for public sale" comes up periodically.

                              My understanding is there are less than 100 of the national match semi automatic M14s in civilian hands. I can't imagine any more will ever be released. The M14 is not obsolete in US service and is still being issued by the military and I suspect will continue to be, despite their gradual replacement in the Designated Marksman roll by AR platform rifles. I think they will be used until they are "expended," that is ragged out beyond repair.

                              The M14 falls under the BATFE's "once a machine gun always a machine gun" rule. That alone makes them unsaleable regardless of how they're modified to be semi automatic only.

                              I've learned the hard way never to say "never" though. I once said there would never be an immigration amnesty. I also said a man would never be able to legally marry another man. Just don't hold your breath.
                              Last edited by Art; 07-11-2023, 09:30.

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