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  • Ltdave
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 587

    #16
    Originally posted by Allen
    Would be easier to just grind off the small lug on the bottom of the receiver to that of an M1A receiver. 1/8" x 5/8". I've heard that's what Canada did with surplus M14's.

    BATF wouldnt allow that though because to them, "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"

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    in our little 100yd walk and paste league we had the local Border Patrol Lt borrow an M14 and ammo, from the station, to come shoot. i dont think he could hit the broad side of a barn from the inside...

    anyway he would come out and open the case on the benches and then take his wallet out with his badge and put it 'flush and grounded' to the edge of the bench 'JUST SO'... not so much to let people know he's allowed to have a select fire rifle but to SHOW hes a Lt and is using a select fire rifle...

    he got moved, not by request and a HS friend of mine who transferred home decided he wanted to shoot one in the league. he went through all 11 of them (i think that was the number) and he found that the Lt had brought a different one out each time, fired it and then put it away dirty. he scrubbed them all down and used just one for the season. he wanted to shoot Expert since he had done so with the M16 while in the 82nd...

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11266

      #17
      when I started service rifle, several guys were still using the M14\M1A and doing well, but all eventually switched over to the AR,
      the few State guns were about worn out, (for a Distinguished or High Master ) but probably would have served an Expert or lower well for another season or 2,


      I shot my M1A, converted to NFA back in 86. a couple times, but since i started on the AR, it was a big learning curve that I did not need to do,
      however I did shoot Garand Matches for a few years and did well,

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      • Allen
        Moderator
        • Sep 2009
        • 10580

        #18
        Originally posted by Ltdave
        BATF wouldnt allow that though because to them, "once a machine gun, always a machine gun"
        Yeah I know, simply because of the M14 stamp. The same goes for the M2 carbine. Silly. All a person would have to do is weld the small tab onto any M1A receiver that houses the selector parts if they wanted a full auto version. Illegal of course, but that is another issue.

        It's just another excuse for the gov't to destroy our guns, most of which met their fate with "captain crunch".

        Reagan wanted to do away with the BATF and reassign them as border patrol agents where they could possibly be of some use.

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        • Old Guns
          Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 32

          #19
          I do know that years ago, either the DCM or ODCMP sold an M14 parts kit as I bought one. Of course, there was no receiver or selector parts. Maybe even some other parts. But this was a parts kit only.

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          • nf1e
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 2122

            #20
            Originally posted by Old Guns
            I do know that years ago, either the DCM or ODCMP sold an M14 parts kit as I bought one. Of course, there was no receiver or selector parts. Maybe even some other parts. But this was a parts kit only.
            I bought a bunch of kits from CMP when Orest was in place. No bolt, barrel or receiver. Sure was nice to have them. Whatta Hobby!

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            • Allen
              Moderator
              • Sep 2009
              • 10580

              #21
              Reese Surplus used to sell complete kits less the receiver and selector parts for $400 and you had your choice of matching parts by SA, Win, HRA, and TRW.

              Their ads were in the Shotgun News issues throughout the 90's. Back then no one had any use for the parts though as no one (that I know of) was manf semi receivers.

              When Springfield Inc began business their early M1A guns were made of the surplus parts (less receiver) till they became more scarce and costly.

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              • nf1e
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 2122

                #22
                When CMP first started selling the kits, you could ask for specific MFG and usually got it. Later on it was luck of the draw. Orion 7 had a ton of parts and sold kits at the same period.
                Not long before that you could pick up a complete parts kit niw less receiver at shows for about $250. Most of which, I have been told, came from returned parts supplied to Israel. Bought plenty then, but obviously never enough. Did stretch the budget anyway. Every now and again I have been made aware of parts stashes that still exist. I buy them up whenever I can, just in case. Whatta Hobby!

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                • barretcreek
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 6065

                  #23
                  Guy who built my four digit Springfield told me it's kosher.

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                  • remus
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 378

                    #24
                    In the mid 80's I shot on the Md. HP team and had the use of an m14. I also had an M1a that Glen Nelson built for me. I went distinguished in 88 at Perry and used my personal rife shooting the last leg. I had two legs with an M14 and two with my own rifle. I still have my personal M1a and even shoot it once in a while.

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                    • clarkaim
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 16

                      #25
                      i was issued a state gun in 1999 from Kansas Rifle Association. that was when everyone was switching to the AR and Sandy had one that nobody wanted so he issued it to me. I wouldn't say it was ragged out but it was NOT as accurate as the One George Gardner had built for me out of an early 90's SA M1a. Kind of cool that it was a bona-fied 14 tho. A TRW NM as I recall. I gave it back in 2001 some time as I'd quit doing much hi-power asI had gotten married and started having children and the wife took all my time away. 25 years later my 3 sons ae all old enough to get into it but i'm old a blind now. i bet that rifle is still in use as a dmr somewhere (I hope)

                      Wife keeps stealing my F150 anyway

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11266

                        #26
                        Originally posted by remus
                        In the mid 80's I shot on the Md. HP team and had the use of an m14. I also had an M1a that Glen Nelson built for me. I went distinguished in 88 at Perry and used my personal rife shooting the last leg. I had two legs with an M14 and two with my own rifle. I still have my personal M1a and even shoot it once in a while.
                        sadly, in MD, the M1A is a prohibitted weapon, now

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