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  • John D.Kopke
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 119

    #1

    HRA Stock Marking.

    Hello Board Members.
    I have recently observed a number code of 041 on the left side of a HRA 46804XX,
    behind the pistol grip and remember this being discussed years ago without resolution.
    Does anyone know what this means ?
    Thank you for any information.
    Respectfully';
    John, a sailor. (Bay of Pigs Yacht Club Member USCG).
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Seen "041" when associated with those rifles rebuild at Anniston, AL.
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 08-21-2014, 09:17.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • StockDoc
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 1189

      #3
      so Anniston is "A4" and "041" for rebuild?
      Last edited by StockDoc; 08-23-2014, 01:42. Reason: deleted "AA"
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      • 2111
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 863

        #4
        I too recall reading on some post that "041" was in some way associated with Anniston, but I don't know if this is documented in some way. I have read that Anniston was designated BA4 in 1963. BA4, BA/4, BA-4, A4 /, and A 4 (plus date), are all believed to be Anniston receiver rebuild codes.
        Normally the code found on earlier Anniston rebuild stocks are AN followed by a letter suffix as well the A 4 stamp. I base the above on various writings of Scott Duff and Dave McClain.
        Not saying the "041 stamping is not Anniston, just that I do not recall it being documented or stated to be so, by a known expert.

        AA is AUGUSTA Arsenal not Anniston.
        Last edited by 2111; 08-23-2014, 01:15.

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        • StockDoc
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 1189

          #5
          Thanks on the AA but wasn't "AAA" Anniston?

          I thought BA - Benecia Arsenal
          Last edited by StockDoc; 08-23-2014, 04:49.
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          • Skeet6
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 23

            #6
            Originally posted by StockDoc
            Thanks on the AA but wasn't "AAA" Anniston?

            I thought BA - Benecia Arsenal
            Nope... AAA is Augusta Arsenal... (extra A is inspector...) BA and all of the above variants including 041 are Anniston.
            Mike B

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            • 2111
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 863

              #7
              The BA rebuild code was that of Benicia Arsenal. it will usually be found over the inspectors initials enclosed in a box and stamped on the left side of the stock. Benicia did M1 rifle rebuilds during WW2 and maybe Korea. Benicia Arsenal was deactivated in 1963 and Anniston was assigned the BA code.
              Mike, as to the 041 code being Anniston, I am still not convinced. Where does this information come from ? Again, not saying that it is not Anniston, just that I would like a bit more evidence than hear say.
              Last edited by 2111; 08-23-2014, 05:56.

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              • Duane Hansen
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 992

                #8
                AAD is Anniston Army Depot

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                • dryheat
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 10587

                  #9
                  Here is an exchange I had with another owner of a 041 marked stock(I have one also). I'm Jeff. My 041 stock does has the A4 stamp as well.

                  Jeff,
                  Here is a picture of the 041 on my DCM IHC. I would sure like to share any
                  imformation you find about the 041 rebuilds. I've emailed many of the collector
                  to include Duff and they don't have a clue other than that the 041 came out of
                  Rock Island. One gentleman thought that they were an Air Force rebuild but
                  couldn't find his documents to support what he was saying. Another man - Ernie
                  Waterhouse -who I purchased the rifle from thought the same thing but didn't
                  have anything to back it up. Good luck on your quest.


                  Jeff,
                  I will check with Ernie and see if he ever found the "041" paperwork he had. He told me initially that the 041 was an Air Force marksmanship team rebuild did which would make more sense(after I mentioned that different arsenals marking accompany) with so many different rebuilds on the 041 Garands. I have another picture of an 041 rebuild that was on GunBroker(I bid and lost) and the 041 is identical to mine and yours. Stay in touch and let's see what we can find out.
                  Last edited by dryheat; 08-23-2014, 08:34.
                  If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                  • StockDoc
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 1189

                    #10
                    I got the AAA off this web site.



                    But will drop it to stay with 041
                    Last edited by StockDoc; 08-23-2014, 10:57.
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                    • Rick B
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 717

                      #11
                      AA Augusta Arsenal followed by inspectors initial. AAR, AAA, AAS and so on. Problem is AAA is also considered Anniston so it is up for debate. I have AAA markings in many fonts and sizes all the way back to 1903's Rick B


                      Last edited by Rick B; 08-24-2014, 05:40. Reason: Too add pictures

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                      • StockDoc
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 1189

                        #12
                        Could the 041 actually be O 41 for Ogden- Utah, with the stock being rebuilt at a different location?

                        I know it is not a 2 letter identifier, just taking a wild stab.
                        liberum aeternum

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                        • dryheat
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10587

                          #13
                          The marks all seem to have a similar look to them. Often the O is very light and the 1 is hit a little heavier. The spacing is always wide.


                          Last edited by dryheat; 08-24-2014, 02:25.
                          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                          • StockDoc
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 1189

                            #14
                            Thanks!
                            liberum aeternum

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                            • 2111
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 863

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dryheat
                              Here is an exchange I had with another owner of a 041 marked stock(I have one also). I'm Jeff. My 041 stock does has the A4 stamp as well.

                              Jeff,
                              Here is a picture of the 041 on my DCM IHC. I would sure like to share any
                              imformation you find about the 041 rebuilds. I've emailed many of the collector
                              to include Duff and they don't have a clue other than that the 041 came out of
                              Rock Island. One gentleman thought that they were an Air Force rebuild but
                              couldn't find his documents to support what he was saying. Another man - Ernie
                              Waterhouse -who I purchased the rifle from thought the same thing but didn't
                              have anything to back it up. Good luck on your quest.


                              Jeff,
                              I will check with Ernie and see if he ever found the "041" paperwork he had. He told me initially that the 041 was an Air Force marksmanship team rebuild did which would make more sense(after I mentioned that different arsenals marking accompany) with so many different rebuilds on the 041 Garands. I have another picture of an 041 rebuild that was on GunBroker(I bid and lost) and the 041 is identical to mine and yours. Stay in touch and let's see what we can find out.
                              Thanks for that reply Jeff. I was thinking of the 041 mark being already on the stock when it went through Anniston. It may end up being one of those things we never get an answer to. Joe

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