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  • jdsal
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 59

    #1

    1907 sling ?

    I have a 1907 sling with brass hardware. The question I have is what is the buildup of the green crud all around the brass? I understand oxidation but this is like green grease it is so built up.
    Some treatment to stop it it's really nasty and I've cleaned it more than once?
  • george r
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 55

    #2
    that's verdigris

    Verdigris forms at the junction of leather and brass. I have no idea how to stop it. It is a form of corrosion of the brass part. In one old holster I have it was enough to fracture a snap fitting from the build up against the thinning metal. I think the presence of the leather provides enough water for the corrosion.
    i just brush it away as it takes years to build up to a really heavy accumulation.

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    • emmagee1917
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1492

      #3
      Reaction from the titanic acid used to tan the leather and the brass . As long as they can touch , the reaction will continue . I believe some treatments can seal them up and slow the reaction down , but it can't be totally stoped.
      Chris

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      • Johnny P
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 6258

        #4
        That is verdigris and it is poisonous.

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        • John Sukey
          Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
          • Aug 2009
          • 12224

          #5
          Titanic acid?

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          • Ben Hartley
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Sep 2009
            • 616

            #6
            Originally posted by John Sukey
            Titanic acid?
            It's a BIG problem.

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            • Dan Shapiro
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 5864

              #7
              I've used white vinegar on a Q-tip to clean it up. It seems to slow the process.
              "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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              • John Sukey
                Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
                • Aug 2009
                • 12224

                #8
                Originally posted by Ben Hartley
                It's a BIG problem.
                Agree, the Titanic sank after hitting an iceberg in 1911

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                • emmagee1917
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1492

                  #9
                  Ok , tannic acid then .
                  " Tis a poor man indeed , who can afford to spell a word only one way . "
                  Chris

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                  • madsenshooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1476

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dan Shapiro
                    I've used white vinegar on a Q-tip to clean it up. It seems to slow the process.
                    According to this, one would think vinegar would accelerate the formation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdigris
                    "I have sworn upon the Altar of God, eternity hostility upon all forms of tyranny over the minds of man." - Thomas Jefferson

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                    • Art
                      Senior Member, Deceased
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9256

                      #11
                      Bicarbonate of soda and water was recommended to me years ago. I've found it to work very well.

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                      • jdsal
                        Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 59

                        #12
                        Thank you for all your input! Learn something new everyday, verdigris!

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                        • PKelly
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 131

                          #13
                          One of the best products I've found is Renaissance Wax. It was developed in the museum community for conservation purposes. It's original use was for the preservation of wooden antiques and I've found it to work well on rifle stocks. It also works well on metal, leather and just about anything else. I collect medieval edged weapons and that was my initial use for it, but I've found it to be excellent on stocks as well as leather slings. Use it to treat your sling and verdigris won't be a problem.

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                          • Dollar Bill
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 156

                            #14
                            Verdigris can form on any copper alloy. I've cleaned it off of some web gear lately. Acetic acids will clean it off but will also promote new formation. The baking soda idea works good. After I cleaned the web gear, a drop of Kroil or other good oil on the metal will hold off futher verdigris for some time. I like the wax idea. It should work great on the sling frogs but I can't see getting it under the edge of snaps without making a mess. Have to try that one out and see.

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                            • PKelly
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 131

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dollar Bill
                              Verdigris can form on any copper alloy. I've cleaned it off of some web gear lately. Acetic acids will clean it off but will also promote new formation. The baking soda idea works good. After I cleaned the web gear, a drop of Kroil or other good oil on the metal will hold off futher verdigris for some time. I like the wax idea. It should work great on the sling frogs but I can't see getting it under the edge of snaps without making a mess. Have to try that one out and see.
                              One thing to remember about Renaissance Wax is a little goes a long way. If you're using enough to goop up snaps and such, you're using too much.

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