Cross Check of Barrel Drawing # / Heat lot to Date Stamp

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  • RGBvr
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 20

    #1

    Cross Check of Barrel Drawing # / Heat lot to Date Stamp

    I can't find any info online for barrel Drawing # / Heat lot codes. My barrel is dated 1-S-A-2-43 and has Drawing # / Heat lot D35448 16-A-8A stamped on it under the handguard. What approximate date range would this Drawing # / Heat lot correspond with?

    Thanks,

    Richard
  • BigMo
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 338

    #2
    I think this is an accurate statement: Most collectors would say the date is the thing considered and not the steel lot #'s on a barrel. So your barrel date is 2-43. Scott Duff uses a 3-month window when comparing the barrel date to receiver. There are times when the barrel dates vs receiver dating is off like first production runs and last but also occasionally a disruption occurs. 1943 was not any of that so the time of February of 1943 to around maybe April of 1943 is accurate.

    BTW- that date (according to Scott Duff in the "Serial numbers and Data sheets" Booklet) corresponds to around 1.2-1.3 million serial number.............
    Last edited by BigMo; 09-28-2014, 08:47.

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    • RGBvr
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2014
      • 20

      #3
      Originally posted by BigMo
      I think this is an accurate statement: Most collectors would say the date is the thing considered and not the steel lot #'s on a barrel. So your barrel date is 2-43. Scott Duff uses a 3-month window when comparing the barrel date to receiver. There are times when the barrel dates vs receiver dating is off like first production runs and last but also occasionally a disruption occurs. 1943 was not any of that so the time of February of 1943 to around maybe April of 1943 is accurate.

      BTW- that date (according to Scott Duff in the "Serial numbers and Data sheets" Booklet) corresponds to around 1.2-1.3 million serial number.............
      I'm not trying to marry the date of the barrel to the receiver production date, I'm certain my rifle was rebarreled with an earlier barrel. I suspect the barrel, bolt and operating rod were all changed at the same time. I'm interested in knowing what Drawing Rev / Heat lot matches up with the barrel date ( there are barrels with fake WW-II dates out there). I've done a lot of web surfing and found that Drawing Rev#s for barrels were not nearly as static as some other parts. It also seems this is an area that hasn't been extensively documented on the web.

      Richard
      Last edited by RGBvr; 09-29-2014, 02:46.

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      • BigMo
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 338

        #4
        Oh, ok, I see what you are driving at now:


        FWIW: I, like a lot (?) of people, haven't or don't follow the drawing/heat numbers that closely on the barrels. Instead I just use the date.

        Sorry: FWIW, I haven't seen anything like that, so I'm of no help.
        Last edited by BigMo; 09-29-2014, 08:37.

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        • M1Riflenut
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2283

          #5
          Originally posted by RGBvr
          I can't find any info online for barrel Drawing # / Heat lot codes. My barrel is dated 1-S-A-2-43 and has Drawing # / Heat lot D35448 16-A-8A stamped on it under the handguard. What approximate date range would this Drawing # / Heat lot correspond with?

          Thanks,

          Richard
          The revision 16 on a barrel is correct for late 42/early 43 time frame. The lot numbers can vary as it changed with each batch of steel used. I don't believe there is a chart (yet) that gives a list of them all throughout production. I use my own reference material based on all the barrels I have and pictures of others I have saved over the years to determine if a barrel date matches the range of the revision number. The same type of info can be used on receivers to determine if it's a welded up salvage piece. The receiver serial number should correspond to the revision number on the leg. There is a chart floating around that dates certain revision bolts and heat lots, but don't believe everything you read. Just because someone makes up a list in a book or online does not mean it's 100% correct. The bolt chart is a good guide but not gospel. I think Babcocks book also lists bolt heat lots to certain ranges but I don't think there is anything on barrels or receivers.
          I collect expensive hobbies.

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