Photos of SN: 2,989,601

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • RGBvr
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 20

    #1

    Photos of SN: 2,989,601

    Here are a few photos of the my first M1 Garand acquisition. This is rifle was sold by CMP South to another individual in June of this year. I acquired it in late July. It has a February '43 barrel "In the white", the SN indicates it's a July '44 build. The bolt is a Revision 19, Heat Lot A8, and the Op Rod is a 65 Series. From my check of the head space with, Go, No-Go, and Field gauges, the barrel was finish reamed and headspace set with this bolt. I believe this rifle was rebarreled and headspaced to this bolt, and the Op Rod was installed at the same time. With the exception of these three parts, all other parts have the correct Drawing / Revision #s for a July '44 build.

    The close ups of the Inspector's, Proof, and small Ordnance cartouche was done before I refinished the stock. The decision to refinish was made due to several long, relatively fresh unsightly scratches in the finish on the stock. After much research I choose to refinish using raw linseed oil (RLO), as the stock ages the red patina will reappear. The stock was not stained, the color is after application of RLO however I did use Vanderhave Formula XIX to color match the upper and forward hand guards.

    The bayonet is a Union Fork and Hoe (UFH), I found it at a local Army Surplus store. It appears to have been NOS, as it was covered in cosmoline and the parkerizing is like new. It's not Greek Black, it's dark grey park. The M1923 Ammo belt is original WW-II, made by Harian Stitching Company (HSCO).



















  • 1563621
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1103

    #2
    Very nice presentation. Nice stock and looks like orig. park too.
    Last edited by 1563621; 10-26-2014, 04:31.

    Comment

    • bd1
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2245

      #3
      At the risk of heresy (actually, the risk is probably greater on the CMP board), I'll stick my neck out and speculate that CMP scrounged up and supplied tne bolt, barrel, and op rod. Details are fuzzy, but CMP did that on some Garands to get them out the door. The -19 bolt with a 65 op rod for an arsenal rebuild early '50's would add up, but not the '43 barrel. Keep your CMP certificate close at hand for authentication.

      Comment

      • RGBvr
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 20

        #4
        It would be interesting to discover how a '43 barrel, that appears to be NOS ended up on this M1. I've since acquired a more correct Drawing / Rev / Heat Lot bolt with acceptable headspace (Field gauge). Eventually I'll procure the curved -9 Op Rod. But the barrel will always prevent this rifle from being correct. I've been keeping my eye out for a '44 barrel with good TE and ME numbers, that's in the white. But that's going to take a while to find. I'm hoping to stumble across a NOS WW-II barrel which requires finish reaming to make this rifle correct. I know that's a stretch, but there probably is one out there, I just need to find it.

        Comment

        • usmc69
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 887

          #5
          Nice rifle, you've done well. Yours isn't to far from mine. My S/N is 2999885. My barrel is dated 3-44. I often wonder if it is the original barrel.
          USMC 1969-1993 6333/8153/9999
          USMC Combat Pistol & Shotgun Instructor
          FBI Rangemaster

          Comment

          • PeteDavis
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 364

            #6
            Slightly O/T but in 2004 I received a H and R CMP Garand withan SA 9-43 barrel that was mint. I am sure they did it to get it out.

            PD

            Comment

            • bd1
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2245

              #7
              About 5 years ago CMP sold appx 4,500 NOS SA M1 rifle barrels, short-chambered, to the public. Most were 1951 and 1952 dated, some 1955. However, customer reports appeared on the CMP board of a few 1944 barrels sprinkled among the deliveries. I don't recall 1943 being mentioned in those postings. The inventory CMP had ON HAND was described as replacement barrels.

              Comment

              • RGBvr
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 20

                #8
                Originally posted by bd1
                About 5 years ago CMP sold appx 4,500 NOS SA M1 rifle barrels, short-chambered, to the public. Most were 1951 and 1952 dated, some 1955. However, customer reports appeared on the CMP board of a few 1944 barrels sprinkled among the deliveries. I don't recall 1943 being mentioned in those postings. The inventory CMP had ON HAND was described as replacement barrels.
                I suppose it's possible this barrel came from that lot. Does anyone know if the CMP armorers keep records of the work they do on each rifle? Did the NOS barrels released by the CMP have chrome pads around the gas port? The barrel on my M1 is not chromed, the pads have the same parkerized finish as the rest of the barrel. As can be seen in the full length photof the receiver, the breech is in the white. Although it cannot be seen the chamber is white and the bore is perfect. No signs of a repark on this barrel.

                Comment

                • RGBvr
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bd1
                  About 5 years ago CMP sold appx 4,500 NOS SA M1 rifle barrels, short-chambered, to the public. Most were 1951 and 1952 dated, some 1955. However, customer reports appeared on the CMP board of a few 1944 barrels sprinkled among the deliveries. I don't recall 1943 being mentioned in those postings. The inventory CMP had ON HAND was described as replacement barrels.
                  I discovered this to be fact. I was able to find a fellow on the CMP forum who bought 12 of these barrels. Of the 12 he bought, 4 of them were NIW/NOS short chambered 1944 barrels. After a few PMs back and forth we settled on a price and he graciously sold me my Unicorn. I now have a SA 4 - 44 , NIW / NOS short chambered barrel to install on my July '44 Garand. I have also acquired a very nice bolt with the correct Drawing # Heat Lot to head space to this barrel. A new to me curved - 9SA Op Rod arrived last Friday. I may buy the required tools to replace the barrel and do the finish ream and set head space myself.

                  Comment

                  • UUURah
                    Right Wing Kook
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5440

                    #10
                    This might shine some light on your quest for answers.

                    Back, way back, in USMC ITR, I have my original bucket list of issued gear. I was issued M-1 # 2,792,5XX. I recall it was in poor condition, the barrel probably shot out using blanks in training. If it was to have been salvaged in any way, and end up at the CMP, the barrel would have definitely had to been changed.

                    Could be a series of M-1's with close by number sequences went through the same way.

                    HTH.
                    --------------------------------
                    Certified Internet Warrior Status: Achieved.

                    Comment

                    • cplnorton
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2194

                      #11
                      Uhurah, looks like are several close in that range.

                      2787394 042751SA (1-PIECE HANDGUARD TEST)
                      2787607 040946USMC - PARRIS ISLAND
                      2792112NM 10278274006 DCM SPECIAL PROGRAM
                      2793195 120150VPI PRESERVATION PROJECT
                      2796491 120150VPI PRESERVATION PROJECT
                      2799087 100648USMC - CAMP LEJEUNE
                      2799498 071753HQ US ARMY CARIBBEAN (FROM BA)
                      2800899 071753BTRY A 314TH AAA BATTN (LOST)

                      Comment

                      • cplnorton
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2194

                        #12
                        For the OP.

                        2984687 111846RARITAN ARS AIR GAGE TEST
                        2985183 120150VPI PRESERVATION PROJECT
                        2985731 053148CORNELL UNIV
                        2985731 0404491ST ARMY
                        2986348 083155TUFTS COLL (RECOIL TESTS)
                        2988658 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
                        2989943 090646SA FLASH HIDER TEST
                        2989943 090646SA FLASH HIDER TEST
                        2993236 050753CO B 364TH INF (LOST)
                        2999136 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 3470
                        2999753 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
                        2999999 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 4507
                        3000000 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 1362
                        3003923 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST

                        Comment

                        • Viking Guy
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 200

                          #13
                          Not mine, just happened to stumble across it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW2...item33995a8631

                          Hope this helps

                          Comment

                          • RGBvr
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 20

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cplnorton
                            For the OP.

                            2984687 111846RARITAN ARS AIR GAGE TEST
                            2985183 120150VPI PRESERVATION PROJECT
                            2985731 053148CORNELL UNIV
                            2985731 0404491ST ARMY
                            2986348 083155TUFTS COLL (RECOIL TESTS)
                            2988658 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
                            2989943 090646SA FLASH HIDER TEST
                            2989943 090646SA FLASH HIDER TEST
                            2993236 050753CO B 364TH INF (LOST)
                            2999136 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 3470
                            2999753 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
                            2999999 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 4507
                            3000000 012992SA MUSEUM SPAR 1362
                            3003923 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
                            My Garand falls betwen these two.

                            2988658 042347USMC - ACCURACY TEST
                            2989943 090646SA FLASH HIDER TEST

                            Too bad there isn't information showing the USMC had possession of all the rifles between these two SNs.

                            Thanks for posting.

                            Richard

                            Comment

                            • RGBvr
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 20

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Viking Guy
                              Not mine, just happened to stumble across it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW2...item33995a8631

                              Hope this helps
                              I exchanged emails with this seller, the barrels he floated in the Bay didn't meet my criteria, particularly at his price point. The seller has a business, Correct Garand Service which appears to be primarily eBay based. There isn't much listed on the business website, but there are pages of stuff on eBay.

                              Correct Garand Service eBay Store

                              Richard
                              Last edited by RGBvr; 12-14-2014, 12:12.

                              Comment

                              Working...