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  • GBEAR1
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 387

    #1

    1942 winchester

    I was wondering if someone could give me an idea of what the REAL WORLD value range would be for an original 42 Winchester. I dont have pictures but here is what I know. It is totally correct and original. The original metal finish rates 95% or better. The stocks retain all original finish { no reworking} with nice cartouches. There are the normal nicks and dings here and there but nothing bad. The bore is pristine and the mechanics are perfect. The gun is righteous. I like it and I know its not going to be cheap. Any and all opinions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #2
    I would question the claim of "orginal" being as it probably went through WWII and perhaps Korea. JMHO.

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    • RCS
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2180

      #3
      A few more details would be helpful: Cartouche is WRA WB, WRA G.H.D. large box or WRA GHD ? is the stock for the no-trap butt plate ? any receiver anneal ? flush nut or lock bar.

      Maybe post a data sheet for more details such as the firing pin, op rod mod or not etc, all would help

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      • kidsgun
        Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 42

        #4
        While we're guessing about values, I have a '57 Chev that is all original?

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        • GBEAR1
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 387

          #5
          I know its a hard question to answer. But it is original. No rebuild, Correct sights, cartouce etc, etc. Lets just say it is the real deal. Im more into carbines and o3s than Garands . Im not savy on Garand values. I would appreciate your best thoughts on price range guys before I take the big plunge. Thanks again for your help.

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          • Latigo 1
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 209

            #6
            How do you know it is original? The chance of running across an "original" 1942 Winchester Garand is pretty slim. Not impossible of course, but really really slim. Few have ever been found. So few in fact that the period of use of some of those early parts is unknown. No one knows for sure exactly when the large box GHD stocks were used, or whether or not WRA ever used a type I lock bar. There are just not enough "original" '42 Winchesters in existence to know for sure. Therefore the value would be quite high. There are some nice restorations though, and a '42 Winchester restored to "all correct" condition would probably bring between $3000 to $5000, depending on the quality of the restoration. Some restorations are very good and some are poor.
            Last edited by Latigo 1; 03-08-2015, 08:10.

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            • UUURah
              Right Wing Kook
              • Aug 2009
              • 5440

              #7
              I have a Winchester Garand built in late 1941. I have it probably 90% restored, I got the hard part, the barrel.

              But I'm SURE it was at the battle of Iwo Jima, D-Day, and the Battle of the Bulge.

              I also believe in the Tooth Fairy.
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              • wayne
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 496

                #8
                Well, the jealousy shows through. While a simple "Can't tell without an examination" would suffice, some people have to show their behinds and ridicule a person that asks a question. There are original unmolested M1's out there, probably more than you think. I would think an unmolested Winchester would be valued north of $3000.00 in almost any condition above NRA good.

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                • 1563621
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1103

                  #9
                  Easily 3K+

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                  • 82505fco
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5

                    #10
                    I sold a mint June-July 1944 Winchester locally to an advanced collector for $6800.00. He set the price and wanted the rifle. If the rifle is original the sky could be the limit on price. Original nice rifles are still out there, good luck.

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                    • RCS
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2180

                      #11
                      Winchester value

                      Some photos of a three and four digit rifles which have had restoration, the early stuff is worth big bucks

                      1) WRA RS cartouche (original) no trap stock with buttplate $3800

                      2) original keystone spring and comp spring on a Winchester follower rod $4000

                      3) WRA barrel and early dulite color op rod $1000

                      4) original dulite color three digit receiver $3000

                      Did not figure early follower arm, bullet guide or follower and slide, don't forget about the sights


                      Winchester sn 163103 sold for $9250 on Nov 15 2013 tooP1010041.jpg

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                      • tmark
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1900

                        #12
                        The books I have read repeat the same theme: The overwhelming majority of USGI WWII longarms have been rearsenalized. To find a true original is possible. So many have been made correct and so are not factory original. How can you tell an original from one made correct? I don't think you can. JMHO

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                        • fogerty
                          Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 84

                          #13
                          With all the info you've provided I'de say it's worth a million bucks. Good luck!

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                          • Latigo 1
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 209

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wayne
                            Well, the jealousy shows through. While a simple "Can't tell without an examination" would suffice, some people have to show their behinds and ridicule a person that asks a question. There are original unmolested M1's out there, probably more than you think. I would think an unmolested Winchester would be valued north of $3000.00 in almost any condition above NRA good.
                            What are you talking about? He asked a question that can not be answered with the minimal information he presented and that is an indication he is inexperienced in the Garand collecting world. People answered his question about values to the best of thier ability, and also tried to warn him about the real world possibility that the rifle he is looking at may not really be "original". I can not tell you how many times I have seen posts asking about "original" rifles, and when more information and photos were finally posted, the rifle turned out to be a stone cold fake. Is it a sign of jealousy that some of us tried to give him a heads up to be careful, or should we have just kept our mouth shut and let him learn the hard way. No one said there are no original rifles out there, but he was warned that an "original" 1942 Winchester Garand is extremly rare, and to be careful. I saw no ridicule in anyone's post. Just a bunch of guys trying to help him out.

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                            • CPC
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 365

                              #15
                              I concur (does not get me a cup of coffee) with latigo. While some of the questions do show skepticism, others were being helpful in my opinion. I was all in until he said he was not savvy on Garand values. On any 42 WRA you have to be savvy (parts and price) or seek assistance from those who are, because the pricing can be painful if you get it wrong. The variance on just a "42 WRA" in dollars can be huge.. just consider the stocks and the internals if you go from Jan-Dec. There were many major changes during the period and RCS and Latigo made some very good points and without any help from the OP, data sheet/Pics. the swags would be irrelevant $4-10>K. Good luck and I hope you get it and post some pics. As some have said, originals do exist but they rarely appear and when they do they command a lot of money in comparison to others of the same time frame. I'm not even savvy, but I do know that.

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