Can anyone explain the Brass on this Receiver?

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  • bigbadbird
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 3

    #1

    Can anyone explain the Brass on this Receiver?

    Can anyone explain the Brass on this Receiver, at least I think it is Brass?
    I changed this receiver for another and put a stainless308 barrel on it.
    I did not like the look of it and was unsure if it was safe.
    Has anyone seen one like this?

    M1 Garand.jpg

    Thank You
  • pcox
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 386

    #2
    Looks like brazing material at first glance. If so, it would mean that the heat treat on that receiver is suspect.

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    • StockDoc
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 1189

      #3
      that is weird looking, don't know what it is
      liberum aeternum

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      • tmark
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 1900

        #4
        Are you sure it is not some sort of oxidation of the metal like rust or some chemical stain?

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        • bigbadbird
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 3

          #5
          Looks like it was welded on, there is some porosity in the welds. Funny thing is that it is only on the out side.
          Maybe it was bad castings and they filled it with welded material. You can see where they ground it flush.
          Thanks to the internet I was able to re-barrel another receiver last night.
          Used a pull thru Head spacing reamer to get the head spacing correct and took it to the range today.
          Worked great so I am back up and running with dads old M1 Garand....
          Going to keep the old parts for historic value but would sure like to know the story on the receiver.
          Dad picked it up in the 60's and never fired it. Serial # is Springfield Armory 5451159
          Does not look like it was a de-milled receiver. Looking forward to any good input about the ol beast and thanks for the replies.

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          • Crispy
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 104

            #6
            If you can tell us the maker and serial from the heel, along with drawing and heat lot from the leg, then we can almost certainly rule a welded demil in or out.
            Chris.

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            • bigbadbird
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 3

              #7
              Serial # is Springfield Armory 5451159
              There is also a Z10 A
              and below that is F 5628291
              The Barrel has SA F65354 48 12 54 MD 45

              Thank for the input, hope this helps.

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              • Sunray
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3251

                #8
                Brass it ain't. Looks like brazing material to me too.
                Spelling and grammar count!

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                • Fred Pillot
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 448

                  #9
                  The spotting is in multiple areas of the receiver, so I don't see it being weld or brass. Looks more like something got splashed or dripped onto it. I had water from my washing machine leak onto some metal in the cellar once. The detergent left it crusty looking. Sand it to see if it cleans up. If so, get it beadblasted then reparked.
                  Fred Pillot
                  Captain
                  San Jose Zouaves
                  1876

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                  • Crispy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 104

                    #10
                    Z 10 A is a correct heat-lot for that serial number range so, not a welded receiver.
                    If it is brass or braze material you should be able to "carve" a sliver from it with a pocket knife and see bright brass beneath the oxidized surface.

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                    • bd1
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2245

                      #11
                      Reckon somebody tried to cook up a "project" M1C or M1D without the correct parts? Stranger things have happened. The general shooting public didn't hold the M1 rifle in particularly high regard for a long time after WW II.

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