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  • bombdog
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 198

    #1

    New hamme question???


    Just installed a new hammer on alice (1953 IHC)... When i tested it, dry fired, the bolt would get locked up and i couldn't recharge her except by inserting a small screwdriver into the gap in the receiver, manually moving the hammer enough to get it to let the bolt come back... Then i put the old hammer back... Why would a new hammer cause this to happen???
    Tango mike for any help...
    bombdog, out...
    "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Jesus Christ !!! JN15:13
  • Richard H Brown Jr
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 445

    #2
    Greetings dryheat:

    I assume you still have the old hammer and can compare them as to size and dimensions:

    a. Italian part
    b. NOT a Garand but an M-14 part?
    c. Poorly made counterfeit

    Any other suggestions out there?

    R. Brown

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    • psteinmayer
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 1527

      #3
      I agree 100% Richard. It sounds to me like the hammer is not correct for a Garand.
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      • Major Tom
        Very Senior Member - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 6181

        #4
        Check to be sure assembly was correct, ie: hammer spring housing.

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        • M1Riflenut
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 2283

          #5
          Originally posted by bombdog
          Just installed a new hammer on alice (1953 IHC)... When i tested it, dry fired, the bolt would get locked up and i couldn't recharge her except by inserting a small screwdriver into the gap in the receiver, manually moving the hammer enough to get it to let the bolt come back... Then i put the old hammer back... Why would a new hammer cause this to happen???
          Tango mike for any help...
          bombdog, out...
          Make sure the new hammer is not some cast POS repro. If USGI, check the cam tooth for wear as well as the cam surface of the bolt. If they look ok try polishing the cam tooth on the hammer and put a little grease on it. Sounds like it's binding up in the bolt. I'd also compare it to your old one and see if there is a big difference in the size of the tooth.
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          • bombdog
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 198

            #6

            Yes it is a M14/M1a hammer... The very front of the old 42 SA hammer has a chip off of it... The side by side comparison looks identical to the new one except for that... Also, i looked up the new production hammers offered by Fulton Armory for M1a's and their garands are the same number... i didn't think there was a difference... All i can figure is there was something internally wrong with my bolt... The rifle in question is, as stated before, a 53 IHC with a D652827 HRA .U. bolt...
            Hammer is 46(or 8)008-3SA in a D28290-12-SA firing assembly... The stock is a 'Boyds' that i fitted according to Gus Fisher's post on another forum... The new hammer works just fine in the M1a...
            Oh yeah, lockup on the firing mech is about half way down the trigger...

            Eagerly awaiting input...
            bombdog... out, here...
            Last edited by bombdog; 06-16-2015, 06:01.
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            • UUURah
              Right Wing Kook
              • Aug 2009
              • 5440

              #7
              Does it function out of the Stock? Boyds Stocks are often not completely finished. Take the receiver out, slide the trigger group back up, and try it.
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              • bombdog
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 198

                #8
                Originally posted by UUURah
                Does it function out of the Stock? Boyds Stocks are often not completely finished. Take the receiver out, slide the trigger group back up, and try it.
                i'll try it...
                bombdog, out...
                "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Jesus Christ !!! JN15:13

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                • Dan Shapiro
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5864

                  #9
                  One other thought. Take out the trigger pin. Now roll the pin portion that supports the trigger between your thumb and forefinger, does it feel out-of-round (slightly bent)?
                  Last edited by Dan Shapiro; 06-16-2015, 08:59.
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                  • bombdog
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 198

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dan Shapiro
                    One other thought. Take out the trigger pin. Now roll the pin portion that supports the trigger between your thumb and forefinger, does it feel out-of-round (slightly bent)?
                    Checked trigger pin, good to go... Tried dry firing with out the stock, a little wiggle room, but it worked...
                    New stock???
                    "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Jesus Christ !!! JN15:13

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                    • Dan Shapiro
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5864

                      #11
                      Can you get someone to post pictures of this hammer? Either it's defective/damaged or a counterfeit repo.
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                      • Richard H Brown Jr
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 445

                        #12
                        "Yes it is a M14/M1a hammer... The very front of the old 42 SA hammer has a chip off of it... "

                        Uh, WHY? There are enough M-1 original parts ruunning around to where you can get an original IHC garand hammer.

                        RHB

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                        • bombdog
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 198

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Richard H Brown Jr
                          "Yes it is a M14/M1a hammer... The very front of the old 42 SA hammer has a chip off of it... "

                          Uh, WHY? There are enough M-1 original parts ruunning around to where you can get an original IHC garand hammer.

                          RHB
                          Friend of mine gave it to me, it was free, i put the SA hammer back in the SA garand, and the M14 hammer is in the M14....
                          So i say again, do you think the stock may be to shallow between the receiver and the firing mechanism???
                          i don't need another hammer, just thought it may come in handy in a pinch...
                          bombdog, out...
                          "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Jesus Christ !!! JN15:13

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                          • mikebaker1129
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 30

                            #14
                            Pretty sure you have it figured out . It is your stock.

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                            • bombdog
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 198

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mikebaker1129
                              Pretty sure you have it figured out . It is your stock.
                              Looking for a 53 IHC stock and close as can be handguards now... Uh, and just for shooting, keep the dress she's wearin now...
                              Thanks gents...
                              bombdog, out...
                              "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." Jesus Christ !!! JN15:13

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