WB Cartouch inside a Box..... What do you say?

[CPC]

While some of the most knowledgeable are following this thread, is there a consensus on the start and stop sn range for boxed WB's?
Regards

[Rick B]

Starts around 114929 and from the amount of them found it should be a very short period. Figure the time it would take for them to have the stamp made. If a week then 116,000 If two weeks 117,000 and if 3 weeks then 118,00. I doubt it was more than a month putting it in the 119,000 range and that is pushing it. All this said there always is a small chance it went further or a 2nd person was helping and periodically it seen use but truthfully doubt it. Rick B

[Bodyman]

Yep,...

Kind of about all I could ever come up with - 4 thousand or so as an absolute max and probably not that many (I kinda leaned towards about 3000 or so as a comfortable middle number). Lacking originals, overlaying barn wood numbers on actual production was about the only analysis that I ever felt could hold water. Rick has better numbers than we had years ago so he can be much more accurate, but they seem to hold pretty true. Start and finish ranges are hard because of overlaps and we have no idea how overlapped Winchester was at this time.

[CPC]

Thank you for the responses. I'll have to revise my copy of Canfields book as he indicates the WB cartouche starts around 110000 (p.243) which I thought was a little early. Can an assumption be made that the RS stamp was used up until the range you have proposed? Regards

[RCS]

Winchester 1941 stocks

There are three types of stocks

1) WRA RS no trap, just very much like the last SA SPG stock, same trigger guard recess and curve on the pistol grip but WRA stock channel

2) WRA WB double box, no trap, WRA notch in trigger guard recess, Winchester curved pistol grip and channel

3) WRA WB, no trap, WRA notch in trigger guard recess, Winchester curved pistol grip and channel

What would be interesting to find is the WRA RS cartouche on stock number 2 or the WRA WB double box cartouche on stock number 1

photos show the WRA RS no trapp1010019_0020.jpgp1010021_0022.jpg stocks, they are different from the WRA WB stocks

[Rick B]

Bruce and I talked a bit back when he found the Polishing shops records. RS or Robert Sears left June 30th and no rifles were built between June 25th 1941 to July 8th 1941. There was a clear stopping point for change over and some changes to the wood itself. Start serial on July 8th was 114523 [ which was the 14523 receiver ] I seen some of the Polishing shop ledger and must say stuff like that is really cool. It shows ever serial logged as the last one done that day. Doesn't mean it was a completed rifle but that the receiver was being readied. Rick B

[CPC]

Thanks Rick for sharing the information. I am familiar with the records as they have also had an impact on the serial number dates of the antique lever rifles as well. Regards and thanks again for sharing your discussions.
CC