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  • Bill D
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 2568

    #1

    300 AAC Blackout

    My son-in-law stopped by this evening with some information on the 300AAC Blackout that he has on order. When he first told me about ordering this caliber, I thought he was slightly daft but after doing a little research, I'm almost sold. He is getting his suppressed and it sort of looks like the best of both worlds - supersonic AND subsonic.

    Anybody here have any thoughts or experience with this caliber on an AR platform?
    "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

    "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
    -- Robert Frost
  • joem
    Senior Member, Deceased
    • Aug 2009
    • 11835

    #2
    A couple of years ago a fellow was trying out a AR with .300 black out ammo. He would have been better off with a bolt action rifle as he had to charge every round into the chamber.

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    • C5M1
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 608

      #3
      The only thing it has over the 7.62x39 is the use of 223 brass and ar magazines. Slightly inferior to the 6.8 spc ballistics. Lotsa info out there. Should be a fun caliber to play with if you reload.


      regards, dennis

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      • RCS
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2180

        #4
        Bill, There is a nice article on the 300 ACC in the March 20th issue of "The Shotgun News"

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        • Bill D
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 2568

          #5
          Originally posted by joem
          A couple of years ago a fellow was trying out a AR with .300 black out ammo. He would have been better off with a bolt action rifle as he had to charge every round into the chamber.
          From what I read, powder selection is critical so far as getting the action to cycle reliably with subsonic ammunition.
          "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

          "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
          -- Robert Frost

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          • Bill D
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 2568

            #6
            Originally posted by RCS
            Bill, There is a nice article on the 300 ACC in the March 20th issue of "The Shotgun News"
            Thanks! I'll try to find a copy.
            "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

            "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
            -- Robert Frost

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            • gwp
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1088

              #7
              Last year I purchased a DS Arms and a Palmetto State Armory complete upper in 300 BLK. The PSA upper took two months to ship and the DSA took over three months to ship. PSA had problems with the chambers. The chambers were out of specification after the double thick chroming of the chamber and bore. PSA delayed shipping until the problem was fixed. DSA was slow because they take orders on products they have not produced, so they fill the order when they make the product.

              The DSA upper functioned well. The PSA required the addition of an extractor o-ring before it would function reliably.

              Both uppers groups were in the one and two inch range at 100 yards with all the ammunition tested. PNW Arms, Remington/UMC and Gunn Ammunition were tested (110, 125, 130, 147, 155 and 220 grain). I tested a box of PNW and Gunn 220 grain subsonic (ten of each per rifle) and the groups were the largest of the ammo tested. I have not purchased a suppressor so I use the faster ammunition. The tightest groups were with the PNW 125gr Nosier Ballistic Tip. The Remington/UMC 110gr and PNW Range 147gr are the least expensive factory ammunition.

              I expect factory 300 BLK ammunition to be in short supply until the supply of .223/5.56 has caught up with the demand for that ammo.

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              • Bill D
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 2568

                #8
                Thanks! Did the 220 grain subsonic ammo you purchased cycle the action reliably?
                "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

                "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
                -- Robert Frost

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                • gwp
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1088

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bill D
                  Thanks! Did the 220 grain subsonic ammo you purchased cycle the action reliably?
                  I did not have problems with the 40 subsonic rounds I shot.

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                  • gwp
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1088

                    #10
                    http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/ hosted by Robert Silvers, has a very positive view of the 300BLK.

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                    • ThePlinker
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Long but good -- Travis Haley 300Blk

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                      • Bill D
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2568

                        #12
                        Thanks for posting this. If I can find an upper in .300 Blackout, I'm going to have a suppressed rifle.
                        "A generation which ignores history has no past and no future." - Jean Boden

                        "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: It goes on."
                        -- Robert Frost

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                        • leemozoid
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 207

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bill D
                          From what I read, powder selection is critical so far as getting the action to cycle reliably with subsonic ammunition.
                          8.5-9.0 grains of Lil' Gun and a pulled M2 AP bullet with a tight crimp cycle reliably in my 9" build using a YHM 7.62 Ti Phantom suppressor.

                          Gratuitous video link. This is 220 Remington OTM subsonic.

                          Last edited by leemozoid; 06-23-2013, 07:33.

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                          • Rifleman WI
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 11

                            #14
                            I love my 300BLK. I built my 16" AR in 300BLK to make a nice light rifle for hunting on foot (so I don't ding up my M1 Carbine). I had some cycling issues, but all I had to do was open up the gasport to .125
                            I plan on building another in 10.5 and 14.5 when parts come back in stock.
                            Last edited by Rifleman WI; 06-24-2013, 05:56.

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                            • gmg1183
                              Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 79

                              #15
                              A friend of mine bought one of theses uppers, but is having a heck of a time finding anyone with ammo. He has some back ordered from a couple of places, but a few weeks out.
                              "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

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