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  • PhillipM
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 5937

    #1

    Lyman qustion

    A friend has one on a 98k. Is it the same 48 on Springfields?
    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur
  • clintonhater
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 5220

    #2
    Don't know, but Lyman gave it a different number, 48 M, vs 48 S.

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    • dave
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6778

      #3
      The base is most likely different, K98k is a large ring while '03 is a small ring and both have different shapes at that point
      You can never go home again.

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      • Parashooter
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 819

        #4
        "Small" and "large" refer to the receiver ring. Lyman 48 normally attaches to the bridge - at the other end of the receiver. Of course the contours of the bridges are different and require different sight bases to fit.

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        • bruce
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3759

          #5
          Not the same. Lyman has a chart that will help. Sincerely. bruce.
          " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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          • PhillipM
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 5937

            #6
            Why I asked is the new cheap aluminum 57 fits both Mauser, Springfield, and a host of others.
            SPECS: Aluminum, black, anodized. Comes with two apertures, ½" (12.7mm) x .093" (2.3mm) and 5/8" (15.8mm) x .040" (1.1mm). Model 57 SME fits Browning Sako, Colt Sako, Enfield u.s. 1917, .30/06 British 1914 303B, JAP Arisaka, 6.5mm, 7.7mm, Mauser '98, 91, 94, 95, 96, 1904, 1909, 1936, G33/40, and Springfield 1903.


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            Phillip McGregor (OFC)
            "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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            • DRB
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 216

              #7
              There is a Lyman 57SME (Springfield Mauser Enfield) it will fit an Arisaka as well. So yes there is a Lyman that fits either a Mauser or an 03. The Lyman 48s on the other hand are specific. The current ones are aluminum but the older ones are steel and are good sights.
              Last edited by DRB; 09-15-2016, 10:08.

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              • dave
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 6778

                #8
                Originally posted by Parashooter
                "Small" and "large" refer to the receiver ring. Lyman 48 normally attaches to the bridge - at the other end of the receiver. Of course the contours of the bridges are different and require different sight bases to fit.
                And the 'bridges' are a different dia., the small ring being smaller, same dia. as that receiver and the large ring bridge is the same as that receiver. Get your caliper out or even your micrometer if you want to argue thousands!!!!
                You can never go home again.

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                • dave
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6778

                  #9
                  And when you order these 'one model fits all' do you have to specify what rifle it is for??? hmmmm!
                  You can never go home again.

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                  • PhillipM
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5937

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dave
                    And when you order these 'one model fits all' do you have to specify what rifle it is for??? hmmmm!
                    No. I bought one years ago but never installed it
                    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                    • bruce
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3759

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DRB
                      There is a Lyman 57SME (Springfield Mauser Enfield) it will fit an Arisaka as well. So yes there is a Lyman that fits either a Mauser or an 03. The Lyman 48s on the other hand are specific. The current ones are aluminum but the older ones are steel and are good sights.
                      Oops! You are right! Sincerely. bruce.
                      " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                      • Parashooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 819

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dave
                        And the 'bridges' are a different dia., the small ring being smaller, same dia. as that receiver and the large ring bridge is the same as that receiver. Get your caliper out or even your micrometer if you want to argue thousands!!!!
                        Perhaps you should take a close look at some Mausers.



                        Large ring steps down some 3mm, leaving remainder of receiver, including bridge, at same 33mm diameter as small-ring models.



                        (This ~33mm bridge diameter, common to many military rifles of the era, is the reason the Lyman 57SME, with a relatively short base, can be used on several of them. The Lyman 48 has a taller base that is contoured differently for various models.)


                        L: 57SME, R: 48C (for '03)

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                        • PhillipM
                          Very Senior Member - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5937

                          #13
                          Thanks, Parashooter!
                          Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                          "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                          • dryheat
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 10587

                            #14
                            So, if it's aluminum do you just smack it until it fits?
                            If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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