RLB or R L B......?

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  • ElWoodman
    Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 85

    #1

    RLB or R L B......?

    What is the significance of The bowed RLB, and the spaced, unboxed R L B on Remington stocks? Did one come first? If so which......Thankyou in advance....
  • Kragrifle
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1161

    #2
    Boxed RLB, then unboxed RLB then spread RLB (last two may be reversed). Maybe Frank Beard will step in here.

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      I believe JB said that the boxed and unboxed RLB were close but I know the "spread" RLB (R L B) came last.
      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
      --C.S. Lewis

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      • John Beard
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2275

        #4
        The order of appearance was:

        (1) Boxed RLB
        (2) Unboxed spread R L B
        (3) Unboxed RLB

        Overlap exists.

        J.B.

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        • Kragrifle
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1161

          #5
          John, my apologies !

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          • Rick the Librarian
            Super Moderator
            • Aug 2009
            • 6700

            #6
            Interesting ...in my (admitted unscientific) observation of mid-ranged Remington M1903s, I usually see "spread" RLB stamps on later rifles than the other two.
            "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
            --C.S. Lewis

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            • John Beard
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2275

              #7
              Originally posted by Kragrifle
              John, my apologies !
              No apologies necessary.

              J.B.

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              • CPC
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 365

                #8
                What are the respective serial ranges or expected dates?

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                • ElWoodman
                  Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 85

                  #9
                  SN 3169935, 8/42 barrel.

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                  • Rick the Librarian
                    Super Moderator
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6700

                    #10
                    I'd say a "spread" RLB.
                    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                    --C.S. Lewis

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                    • Alkali
                      Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 87

                      #11
                      FWIW, My Remington 1903 has an unboxed "RLB" that is neatly stamped, aligned, and closely spaced. Serial # is 3185260 and barrel date of 7-42. Beard says "overlap" exists which sounds likely. Maybe Remington had more than one worker using the RLB stamps ( pure conjecture on my part).

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                      • Lee T.
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 212

                        #12
                        And another - SN 3223808 9-42 Unboxed RLB I suppose this would be considered an overlap into FJA territory as far as the stock goes, but I've had it for a long time - 1963. I've seen one or two other 10-42 RLB, but couldn't say if they were original.

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                        • Rick the Librarian
                          Super Moderator
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6700

                          #13
                          Usually, I thought FJA came in about 3,200,000 but with all the other "abnormalities" existing within Remington M1903s, I would be surprised a bit.

                          As I recall, Frank J. Atwood took over from Roy L. Bowlin about July, 1942, but, like with other markings there was certainly a time of "overlap.
                          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                          --C.S. Lewis

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                          • Kragrifle
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1161

                            #14
                            What about 3178222? Boxed RLB , no grasping grooves? Correct as original ?

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                            • John Beard
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2275

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Kragrifle
                              What about 3178222? Boxed RLB , no grasping grooves? Correct as original ?
                              A rifle not far from that serial number has been reliably reported with a boxed RLB. But the rifle is very much the exception and has not been authenticated.

                              J.B.

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