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  • milboltnut
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 432

    #1

    A3 2 groove barrels

    Which process was used, hook or broach?



    Instead of starting a new thread, I'll ask here.

    Other than the 1917...In regards to the A3 2 groove barrels only made during WW2 for the A3's? The 03's were only 5 groove?
    Last edited by milboltnut; 03-15-2018, 11:41.
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  • 98src
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 199

    #2
    2 groove barrels were also made as replacement barrels for the M1917 Enfield. The1903 replacement barrels were 4 groove I believe. I'm not sure of the rifling method.

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    • pickax
      Senior Member
      • May 2011
      • 113

      #3
      From memory, (dangerous).
      '03 barrels were 4 groove until WW11, then SA and Remington went to 2 groove. The only 5 groove were on original '17s.
      I'll bet rifling type is stated in Brophy or Hatcher, but I am away from them now.

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      • Rick the Librarian
        Super Moderator
        • Aug 2009
        • 6700

        #4
        Springfield made only 4-groove barrels; Remington and (in very small quantities) Smith-Corona made 2-groove barrels. No military rifle manufacturer made 5-groove barrels in WWII.
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        • milboltnut
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 432

          #5
          I have a 4,024 Rem A3... with a 2 groove barrel.
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          • Rick the Librarian
            Super Moderator
            • Aug 2009
            • 6700

            #6
            That would be right ...
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            • milboltnut
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 432

              #7
              approximately 4.2 million Remington's in a two year stretch is not a small quantity to me.
              Last edited by milboltnut; 03-17-2018, 03:07.
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              • firstflabn
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 162

                #8
                Originally posted by milboltnut
                approximately 4.2 million Remington's in a two year stretch is not a small quantity to me.
                Math much?

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                • milboltnut
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 432

                  #9
                  from 1942 to 1944....

                  https://www.remingtonsociety.org/190...rial-no-table/



                  what math are you talking about? Here's the numbers.
                  Last edited by milboltnut; 03-17-2018, 06:54.
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                  • John Beard
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 2275

                    #10
                    Originally posted by milboltnut
                    approximately 4.2 million Remington's in a two year stretch is not a small quantity to me.
                    Your math is a little off.

                    Remington started at S/N 3,000,000 and 100,000 of those numbers were set aside for Smith-Corona.

                    J.B.

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                    • Rick the Librarian
                      Super Moderator
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6700

                      #11
                      I think the "specifics" are approximately 348,000 Remington M1903s, 234,000 Smith Corona M1903A3s, 707,000 Remington M1903A3s and about 28,000+ M1903A4 sniper rifles.
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                      • jgaynor
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1287

                        #12
                        Originally posted by milboltnut
                        Which process was used, hook or broach?
                        See "The Rifle in America" Philip B. Sharpe 1947 or later PP 550-551. Button rifling was used, at least to some degree, late in production. Reportedly it was faster and with less wear on the tools than traditional methods.

                        Regards,

                        Jim

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                        • milboltnut
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 432

                          #13
                          John....I was assuming your list were ones documented not started at.... Thanks for the facts John, and the enlightenment.


                          From the Remington Society website...

                          Serial numbering began with SN 3,000,000
                          This total Remington production includes 348,085 M1903 “Modified” rifles.
                          Now I see what the list from JB website means... they utilized 1903 receivers at that serial number.
                          Last edited by milboltnut; 03-17-2018, 08:19.
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                          • fjruple
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 175

                            #14
                            I believe Hatcher's Notebook also covers the two groove question in the Springfields 03's

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