Mark I w/Pedersen Device..............

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  • Dan Shapiro
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 5864

    #1

    Mark I w/Pedersen Device..............

    At auction, all you need is LOTS OF MONEY!

    http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/58/lid/1852
    "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain
  • Fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4977

    #2
    I just asked my wife if we had an extra $45,000.00 - $60,000.00 and she told me no.

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    • Dan Shapiro
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 5864

      #3
      Hmmmm.........a lot nicer than the response I got (and my birthday is coming up!).

      "Are you out of your $%&# mind!"
      "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe, while Congress is in session." Mark Twain

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      • IditarodJoe
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1529

        #4
        Wouldn't April 1919 be a bit too late for a DAL inspection stamp? Brophy places the DAL cartouche in 1917-1918. My Mk I, made in the May-June 1919 time frame, has a WJS stock cartouche.

        I mean . . . I was going to buy this, but not if the rifle has the wrong stock!!! (yah, right )
        Last edited by IditarodJoe; 03-09-2013, 01:56.
        "They've took the fun out of running the race. You never see a campfire anywhere. There's never any time for visiting." - Joe Redington Sr., 1997

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        • Kurt
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 488

          #5
          Dan, agree, Fred's wife just said no, mine beat the hell out of me to make sure I understood NO.

          Kurt
          As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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          • da gimp
            Very Senior Member - OFC Deceased
            • Aug 2009
            • 10137

            #6
            Wondering if this is the Swede's rig..............just might be.........
            be safe, enjoy life, journey well
            da gimp
            OFC, Mo. Chapter

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            • Doug Douglass
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2264

              #7
              Originally posted by IditarodJoe
              Wouldn't April 1919 be a bit too late for a DAL inspection stamp? Brophy places the DAL cartouche in 1917-1918. My Mk I, made in the May-June 1919 time frame, has a WJS stock cartouche.
              My 1921 National Match #1196714 has a DAL cartouch, so I suspect all is not exactly as recorded. What a nice Pederson Device. I have a MK1 rifle with all MK1 parts cartouched Benicia Arsenal rebuild and the canvas pouches, but NO device, darn it.

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              • m1903rifle
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 588

                #8
                I agree with Doug. I have a 1929 NM in a C stock with a DAL cartouche. Brophy must have been wrong as I have seen other NM rifles later than 1918 with the DAL cartouche.

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                • amber
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 268

                  #9
                  Notice that the cartouche is doubled.

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                  • PhillipM
                    Very Senior Member - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5937

                    #10
                    Originally posted by da gimp
                    Wondering if this is the Swede's rig..............just might be.........
                    I would think she would have given us a heads up at least!
                    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
                    "I am neither a fire arms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things." General Douglas MacArthur

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                    • Rick the Librarian
                      Super Moderator
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6700

                      #11
                      Daniel A Leary was at Springfield at least from 1917 to the mid-1930s. Brophy is wrong.
                      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                      --C.S. Lewis

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                      • John Beard
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2275

                        #12
                        Originally posted by amber
                        Notice that the cartouche is doubled.
                        If you look even closer, you will see that the cartouche is fake!

                        J.B.

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                        • jimmyzwei
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 48

                          #13
                          2nd one to be sold by RIA in the last couple of years. last sold in May of 2011 for 42,500.00USD to floor that before the 8k+ buyers premium. Had the privilege of handling that one, was required to done white gloves to pick it up, but knew the guy at the table so i was able to pull the device out and look it over. Will with out a doubt handle this one also.
                          I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
                          Voltaire (1694-1778) French writer and historian.

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                          • Rick the Librarian
                            Super Moderator
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6700

                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Beard
                            If you look even closer, you will see that the cartouche is fake!

                            J.B.
                            Here's the one on the Mark I featured on RIA:



                            I agree, something doesn't look right.

                            Here's one on a NM M1903 I examined a few years ago:

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                            Last edited by Rick the Librarian; 03-09-2013, 07:32.
                            "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                            --C.S. Lewis

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                            • Kurt
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 488

                              #15
                              In the description he states;

                              The stock and handguard are also both excellent showing no handling marks with a restamped "DAL" cartouche and circled "P" proof. That and he refers to the stock as"correct fitted" which sounds like lawyer talk in this neck of the woods.

                              And this: This Model 1903 Mark I rifle was manufactured by Springfield Armory in April 1910" I must have missed a few years of production, darn!

                              I don't know, I think I may have brain damage from the wife beating.....things are a bit fuzzy

                              Kurt
                              As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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