1903 Remington with grasping grooves

[Kragrifle]

This late 1903 Remington just showed up on Gunbroker. Note that it is a late recoil pin stock with grasping grooves. They do not look “right” in that the width is constant, not deep getting shallow as you move forward on the stock. I believe this stock has been altered, but am I wrong?

[lyman]

would be easier if to see if you just post the item number,

[Parashooter]

03flutesBad.jpg

Like many fake '03 forestock flutes, this one was cut with a simple ball-end bit, quite different in effect from the more complex cutter employed at Springfield.

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The cutter shown here has a major (horizontal) radius of 3.12" and a minor (vertical) radius of 3/4". (It's like a wheel, not a ball.) The resultant flutes feature gradual ends reflecting the major radius rather than the ball-end fake's constant radius throughout the flute. Easy to spot once learned.

[clintonhater]

would be easier if to see if you just post the item number,

NO, send a LINK.

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Easy to spot once learned.

Didn't even know this was going on, but you're right. Fakers will have to up their game.

[lyman]

don't want to post a live link,


GB item number

871599465

[John Beard]

I cannot say with 100% absolute certainty that the grasping grooves are not authentic. But I can say with 100% absolute certainty that the grasping grooves are not contemporary with the stock configuration by a very considerable margin. The stock is an M'03-A3 stock. Grasping grooves had disappeared more than 200,000 rifles earlier.

For what it's worth. Stay safe!

J.B.

[Kragrifle]

Sorry, didn’t know how to post link. Thanks for the replies. Need some one to write a book about 1903 Remington rifles. Hint, hint��

[Kragrifle]

The book Arsenal of Freedom The Springfield Armory actually has drawings of how these grooves were created. Since the stocks taper as you move forward, the stocks were laid flat to the rear of the stock. By dropping onto the cutter and pushing forward the groove cut became deeper as the stock was pushed forward.

[clintonhater]

Need some one to write a book about 1903 Remington rifles.

Somebody already has--Clark Campbell; or rather a chapter in "The '03 Era.'

[lyman]

Somebody already has--Clark Campbell; or rather a chapter in "The '03 Era.'

and Brophy,

[Kragrifle]

Need more detail as to production changes, serial numbers, etc.

[clintonhater]

Need more detail as to production changes, serial numbers, etc.

Campbell includes a chart showing production by month. Do you have it? Rem's 1903 (Modified) only produced about 14 months before converting to A3, so can't very well write a "book" about it.