Interesting points on an auction

[Mike D]

Yeah, I believe that one to be legit.

Mike

[John Beard]

I stand corrected!

J.B.

[Cosine26]

Interestingly enough tmy SC pictured with the Keystone stock has a repair on the butt. The "heel" has repair that is a three inch by two inchs . It is also highly figured as is the auction rifle. I wonder if the figured wood gave trouble in the shaping process.
John Beard, isn't the trigger guard a little early for a SC numbered that high?

[Mike D]

Interestingly enough tmy SC pictured with the Keystone stock has a repair on the butt. The "heel" has repair that is a three inch by two inchs . It is also highly figured as is the auction rifle. I wonder if the figured wood gave trouble in the shaping process.
John Beard, isn't the trigger guard a little early for a SC numbered that high?

Here is the butt repair of the auction rifle -

Cosine - If you copy and paste the IMG code from photobucket, instead of the photo link, the image will appear in the post.

Mike

[joem]

I sure don't see $7000.00 worth of anything there.

[buttebob]

Smith-Corona was given the contract in Feb.,1942 for the '03. This was changed to the '03A3 in May, '42 before production started. The first 20 rifles were delivered in Oct.,'42 and 5,540 were produced by Dec.,'42. High Standard obtained rifle blanks from Savage early in production and produced about 5,000 6-groove barrels. So, just by the numbers, 12-42 should be a 4-groove. It depends on how close to "about" 5,000 it actually is. I can't see how it could be a 2-42 as a waiver was granted to use these barrel to speed up production and no guns were produced until Oct.,'42.
The receiver is 1944 number.

[John Beard]

Interestingly enough tmy SC pictured with the Keystone stock has a repair on the butt. The "heel" has repair that is a three inch by two inchs . It is also highly figured as is the auction rifle. I wonder if the figured wood gave trouble in the shaping process.
John Beard, isn't the trigger guard a little early for a SC numbered that high?

Yes. The small bow trigger guard is not consistent with the serial number. The rifle has been overhauled, refinished, and re-assembled from mixed parts. The receiver has also been re-barreled with a barrel taken from an earlier rifle.

J.B.

[John Beard]

High Standard obtained rifle blanks from Savage early in production and produced about 5,000 6-groove barrels..

Documents I have from the Office of the Chief of Ordnance conflict with this statement.

J.B.

[buttebob]

J.B. I know my information has to be correct because I found it on the internet.

I looked it up again and it was an American Rifleman written by Bruce Canfield.

[John Beard]

J.B. I know my information has to be correct because I found it on the internet.

I looked it up again and it was an American Rifleman written by Bruce Canfield.

"We once believed that, given a million monkeys with a million typewriters, we would eventually get the works of William Shakespeare. But now that we have the internet, we know that's not true!" Source unknown.

J.B.

[TomWatts]

And the award for snarky comebacks goes to JB...

[rebound]

And the award for snarky comebacks goes to JB...

And it was a funny one... also too...

[chuckindenver]

Savage historian, agrees...Savage did indeed provide barrels for Smith Corona...no fancy documents, or paper work..just a rough convesation with a grouchy old man on the phone..
HS made no other 6 groove barrels for any other weapon..why would they make a special run of them for SC?
when in fact Savage made many 6 groove barrels already for the 1919, and other .30 cal military weapons..
i have a 6 groove barrel made by Savage on my 1917 Water cooled, that was built up from a 1919 kit..
how am i sure its a Savage made barrel? it came in a tube marked as such.