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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    OK, I'm a Bubbaising low life.

    I have seen a lot of posts lately that denigrate anybody that has a "sporterized" military rifle.

    Hello... every one of my favotite centerfire hunting rifles are made on either 1903's or 98 Mausers. So I guess that makes me an idiot... I just ordered one of these just to infuriate the "collectors" here.

    Last edited by RED; 05-30-2013, 05:28.
  • ClaudeH
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 199

    #2
    Hey, I agree. It's your money, it's your action if you buy it. People try to tell me to quit disposing of my motor oil by dumping it in my old well, but it's my motor oil and my land, right? ;<)

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    • Rick the Librarian
      Super Moderator
      • Aug 2009
      • 6700

      #3
      There were a LOT of M1903s, M1917s and 1898s made into hunting rifles in the days when they sold for anywhere from $20-50.Obviously, your money. My only gripe is someone taking a $800 military rifle, spending $400 to make it into a $250 sporter.

      Buying the receiver pictured in the link, probably taken off of a drill rifle is no big deal with me.
      "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
      --C.S. Lewis

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      • Dave in NGA
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 968

        #4
        And let's not overlook the differences between the construction of such rifles as the Remington 700, Winchester 70, or Ruger 77. If you want a rifle made on a screw machine from a round bar of steel, go with a Reminton. If you want a cast metal action, try a Ruger. But for my money I'll always select a forged action such as the older Winchester or a 1903or A3 Springfield. Forged steel is stronger, tougher, and more expensive to work from. When I've got my face just inches away from an 50,000 psi explosion, I want the best.

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        • p246
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 2216

          #5
          Red I have built several huntin rifles out of military receivers. However I always used donors that were already bubbed or taken apart. I see no problem with it. I just finished building an AIMS 03A3 on a Remington receiver on a new 2-44 barrel it turned out well. I'll try and post a pic. I built it to shoot so I wouldn't wear out the original one I have. I did post a b!tch about it on here because repair to mag cutoff sucked and I had to fix it.

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          • p246
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2216

            #6
            Last edited by p246; 05-30-2013, 08:00.

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            • p246
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 2216

              #7

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              • p246
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 2216

                #8

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                • p246
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2216

                  #9
                  There's my AIMS receiver in finished form. The first pic shows mag cutoff. I rounded back so when I'm dead and gone any knowledgeable buyer should know its a reclaimed D.R. The 1903 stock should give it away to. FYI I reparked it and blended repaired area with Norells light grey. Have test fired it only. I need to get out and ring it out to see what kind of groups it will shoot. Have a blast building yours;I did.

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                  • Marine A5 Sniper Rifle
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 7450

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rick the Librarian
                    There were a LOT of M1903s, M1917s and 1898s made into hunting rifles in the days when they sold for anywhere from $20-50.Obviously, your money. My only gripe is someone taking a $800 military rifle, spending $400 to make it into a $250 sporter.
                    Scope - $1200 with rings
                    Barrel - $400
                    Stock - $400
                    Safety - $400
                    Machine work - From $500 to $1500
                    Bluing - $400
                    Incidentals - $300

                    You won't build a custom rifle for $400, unless you pick up a whole lot of bargains. I got lucky - a 416 Rigby and a lot of fun for about $300 total, but I did 100% of the work.

                    http://www.jouster.com/forums/showth...by-s-416-Rigby

                    Building a sporter can be a lot of fun.

                    jt

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                    • BudT
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2508

                      #11
                      Me to, and I'm having another 98 built right now. A sewer pipe barrel piece of junk that cant hold a 6 inch group at 100 yards oil soaked stock and no finish left on it mis-match. When it's done it will be a slick sporter with a new 7X57 mauser ER Shaw barrel scope topped hunting rifle worth using and it will work for 2-3 generations or more. I wish I could find a screwed up 03 to set up for a nice .338/06 Ackley, that would be a great elk, bear or deer rig.
                      I DDUW BO'R DIOLCH

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                      • dave
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6778

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ClaudeH
                        Hey, I agree. It's your money, it's your action if you buy it. People try to tell me to quit disposing of my motor oil by dumping it in my old well, but it's my motor oil and my land, right? ;<)
                        Only while you are here (in this world). And maybe it will be in your new well before you are gone. I am not exactly eviormentally correct but thats a stupid thing to do!
                        You can never go home again.

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                        • ClaudeH
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 199

                          #13
                          dave,

                          I appreciate your disdain, I couldn't help making the sarcastic rejoinder. RED has been on here stirring us up with that goad before, I think.

                          No point in reasoning with it and it's only one reclaimed receiver more or less, but it is one less intact (more or less) receiver if he Bubba-izes it. And it doesn't make a lick of sense when there are so many already sporterized '03s on the auction sites every day.

                          With one of those he would have a >not< reclaimed receiver and would not be Bubba-izing one more intact receiver and he'd probably come out well ahead financially. Downside? I don't see one. He still would have whatever he wanted built on an '03 receiver and he'd probably pick up a few free parts in the deal like proper bolt to clear a scope, proper safety to clear a scope, scope mounts, maybe the stock or barrel or whatever if they suited his project, and he could sell off the parts he didn't use. Starting with a stripped receiver he'll have to buy a lot of parts that would come with an already sporterized rifle, like the magazine/triggerguard, floorplate, trigger, etc.

                          So it's not a big deal but it's dumb and destructive to start with a reclaimed receiver, and I think he just likes rubbing our faces in his plan.

                          Anyway, I don't dump oil down wells! But I am looking for a pretty much intact '57 Chevy coupe that I can strip out and build into a retro sportsmans class dirt track racer. Plenty of them done in the day you know, and it's my money, my decision!

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                          • rebound
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 315

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dave
                            Only while you are here (in this world). And maybe it will be in your new well before you are gone. I am not exactly eviormentally correct but thats a stupid thing to do!
                            Dave it looks like you bit on Claudett's oil dumping in the well story...
                            I thought it was very funny myself..............
                            He may be strange, but not that bad.......
                            Sometimes one has to take things said on this site with a grain of salt, But oil in the well that
                            was a good LOL...

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                            • Griff Murphey
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 3708

                              #15
                              I think using the recovered drill rifle receiver is perfectly fine. I would disagree with sacrificing any (military or civilian) classic gun, pre-1964 if you want an off-the-cuff date, to build a custom one. However that is only an opinion, and it doesn't prevent anyone from doing whatever he wants.

                              There are so many poorly done bubba sporters out there, as well as these recovered drill rifles; I just think it is silly in this day and time to cut up any factory condition gun military or civilian, which has substantial collector value left as is

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