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  • Merc
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 1690

    #1

    What does the Z mean?

    I saw a Remington 03-A3 with 9/43 stamped on the barrel for sale at a flea market today. The receiver was stamped with a capital Z as shown in the photo. What is the significance of the Z?

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  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11269

    #2
    duplicate serial number found , so they added a z to one to make it unique

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    • Johnny P
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6260

      #3
      If I remember correctly the Z prefix was added when Remington used a block of serial numbers on 03-A3's which had already been assigned to 1903-A4 production. When the mistake was found the Z was added to the 03-A3 to create a different serial number.

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      • Merc
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 1690

        #4
        So, does that add to the value of this particular 03-A3? The asking price was $875.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11269

          #5
          you are in PA correct?

          here in VA, $875 for a nice 1903A3 is a very good deal,

          more details please

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          • Merc
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 1690

            #6
            This flea market is in Andover, OH and is open every weekend throughout the summer. It often yields some interesting old military relics. I bought my 1700s Brown Bess bayonet and several other bayonets there. Today, in addition to the 03-A3, there was a different vendor selling a sporterized Eddystone M1917 ($500) and another selling 5 swords. Probably the most interesting was a Justice M1840 heavy cavalry saber known during the Mexican and Civil War as the Wristbreaker ($700) but no scabbard.

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            • Merc
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 1690

              #7
              Since I already own a minty 03-A3, I passed on it and everything else.

              The rifle appeared to be in undisturbed condition. All the usual cartouche stampings were on the stock plus the R-RA rebuild stamp. There weren’t an abundance of dents and dings on the stock but the surface was dry, dirty and oxidized. The stampings were faint as if it had been handled a lot. There was a plastic wire tie around the well oiled bolt so I couldn’t open it and view the bore. All metal components were Parkerized and the front sight was protected by a hood. I didn’t look for the R stamping on the sling swivels, but the butt plate had a fine cross hatch pattern so it was made by Remington.

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              • Johnny P
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 6260

                #8
                Bolt should be blue, but can't tell much else from photo. Only barrel, receiver, and safety were originally Parkerized.

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                • Merc
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 1690

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Johnny P
                  Bolt should be blue, but can't tell much else from photo. Only barrel, receiver, and safety were originally Parkerized.
                  The bolt was Parkerized along with everything else.

                  Edit - the front part of the Parkerized bolt is visible in the photo. Scuff marks can be seen on the extractor ring so it has some evidence of use.
                  Last edited by Merc; 07-31-2022, 05:51.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #10
                    which would be correct with the rebuild stamp

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11269

                      #11
                      not sure why this was closed , but it should work now

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                      • Johnny P
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6260

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Merc
                        The bolt was Parkerized along with everything else.

                        Edit - the front part of the Parkerized bolt is visible in the photo. Scuff marks can be seen on the extractor ring so it has some evidence of use.
                        Just cycling the bolt will cause the phosphate finish to scuff.

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                        • 1mark
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 390

                          #13
                          Please let me know the complete serial number of the 03A3 with the Z. I have 2 03A3's with Z that are not A4 snipers. If you do not want to post it here please send me a PM.
                          Thank you
                          "Three people can keep a secret as long as two of them are dead" Mark Twain

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                          • Merc
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 1690

                            #14
                            The serial number is 4027117.

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