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  • Fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 4977

    #1

    This is just amazing...

    Someone puts grease in the bore and then says that the rifle has never been fired. LOL. It's not even a complete rifle. How very typical. What's sad is that somebody out there might very well buy it. Nobody has any business buying a 1903 Springfield until they study the subject in depth. Look at collections, go to gun shows and ask questions, look at a lot of rifles, be able to filter out the BS from the good information,
    read up on the subject all that you can. Then, if and when you develop a passion to obtain a particular model of 1903, you'll know what you're doing, what you're getting and how much you should be paying for it.
    How many times have we all seen someone ask what kind of 1903 Springfield they should be looking for and what they should pay for it? The answer should be that if they don't know what they want, or what they are looking for or at, why are they wanting to buy one? Maybe they just want to own a thing that others will admire and approve of. I don't know. I fear that somebody will buy the rifle in this auction and then proudly bring it forth for a show and tell, only to be disappointed and embarrassed.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=356276646
  • Kurt
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 488

    #2
    Well Fred, now the cats out of the bag and I won't get the winning bid! I could have had it, a nice unfired Mark 1 but no, you had to tell the world....and now it's going to get bid up beyond my budget. Geesh

    Kurt
    As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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    • dave
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 6778

      #3
      I doubt there is a 03 that exists that is "unfired", or an M1 for that matter. And I am not counting proofs, they have all been proofed!
      You can never go home again.

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      • chuckindenver
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3005

        #4
        likely his master gunsmith has looked it over, and they have found the same book of values to price these rare gems.
        if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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        • Rick the Librarian
          Super Moderator
          • Aug 2009
          • 6700

          #5
          Originally posted by chuckindenver
          likely his master gunsmith has looked it over, and they have found the same book of values to price these rare gems.
          LOL!! Either that, or he went by the Bluebook!! I know one reason it hasn't been fired - no handguard or upper band! It never was completed!!
          "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
          --C.S. Lewis

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          • Handsome Devil
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 29

            #6
            Stand back, I'm going in..................not! Regards, John.

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            • Fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 4977

              #7
              Originally posted by Kurt
              Well Fred, now the cats out of the bag and I won't get the winning bid! I could have had it, a nice unfired Mark 1 but no, you had to tell the world....and now it's going to get bid up beyond my budget. Geesh

              Kurt

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              • ClaudeH
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 199

                #8
                Wow, that would be cool as a 9mm semi-auto. I wonder what that would cost? Can it take Glock magazines?

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                • Herschel
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 973

                  #9
                  Internet auction definitions:

                  Unfired means unfired since I listed it at auction.

                  Original Finish means the finish that was on the rifle when I originally bought it.

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                  • Rick the Librarian
                    Super Moderator
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6700

                    #10
                    This is from one of my favorite articles in Gun Digest -- A Field Guide to Gun Shows:

                    NEAR-MINT CONDITION: Has had no more than 5,000 rounds fired through it and
                    it still retains at least 60% of the original finish. Surface pitting is no
                    more than 1/8" deep, and both grip panels are in place. If it is a .22, some
                    of the rifling is still visible.

                    VERY GOOD: Non-functional when you buy it, but you can probably get it to
                    work if you replace 100% of the parts.

                    FAIR: Rusted into a solid mass with a shape vaguely reminiscent of a firearm.

                    TIGHT: In revolvers, the cylinder swings out, but you need two hands to
                    close it again. For autoloaders, you must bang the front of the slide on a
                    table to push it back.

                    REALLY TIGHT: In revolvers you cannot open the cylinder without a lever.
                    Once it's open the extractor rod gets stuck halfway through its travel. On
                    autoloaders, you need a hammer to close the slide.

                    A LITTLE LOOSE: In revolvers, the cylinder falls out and the chambers are
                    1/4" out of line when locked up. There is no more than 1/2" of end play.
                    For autoloaders, the barrel falls out when the slide is retracted. If the
                    barrel stays in place, the slide falls off.

                    GOOD BORE: You can tell it was once rifled and even approximately how many
                    grooves there were.

                    FAIR BORE: Probably would be similar to GOOD BORE, if you could see through it.

                    NEEDS A LITTLE WORK: May function sometimes if you have a gunsmith replace
                    minor parts, such as the bolt, cylinder, or barrel.
                    "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                    --C.S. Lewis

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                    • Griff Murphey
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3708

                      #11
                      That thing is junk.

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