I've Got Two Holes in My Butt

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  • bigskybound
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 206

    #1

    I've Got Two Holes in My Butt

    Now that I have your attention. The 1918 03 I purchased this weekend has two holes drilled in its replacement C stock under the buttplate. One is for the cleaning rod trapdoor. What's the other for? Probably a rookie question, but...............
  • jgaynor
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1287

    #2
    weight

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    • bigskybound
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 206

      #3
      Originally posted by jgaynor
      weight
      Another newbie question. Is that to reduce weight or a place to add weights? I have seen lead weighted shotgun butts.

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      • Kurt
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 488

        #4
        Too reduce weight, that along with various lighting cuts on the trigger guard, the rear sight sleeve and a couple other parts. Ounces added up when all taken together.
        As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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        • chuckindenver
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3005

          #5
          repro C stocks have an extra hole..this hole was likely used during the cutting..and has nothing to do with the stock itself
          if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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          • George in NH
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 416

            #6
            Is it safe to say that no (GI) C stocks were drilled for the spare parts kit??
            George in NH

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            • Rick the Librarian
              Super Moderator
              • Aug 2009
              • 6700

              #7
              Correct - although they were drilled for the oiler/cleaning kit.
              "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
              --C.S. Lewis

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              • jgaynor
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1287

                #8


                The lower hole is shown in the above captioned illustration as a "lightening cut". Spare parts kits were issued to alternate rifles manufactured between 1911 and 1917 after which it was determined that the heavy issue of spares was not really required however every one needed the oiler and thong.

                Forgot to mention. The sear "hook" of the firing pin extension protruded past the edge of the spare parts container. So rifles of that vintage necessarily needed a notch along the side of the hole to accommodate the sear hook. The other point of course is you had no easy access to the lower hole unless you dismounted the buttplate.

                The M1 had two holes covered by an oblong trap. One hole was for the cleaning kit and the other for the combination tool.
                Last edited by jgaynor; 08-20-2013, 01:02.

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                • Kurt
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 488

                  #9
                  My SA post WW1 C stock has two holes, the lower a little larger than the upper cleaning kit hole. My contract made American Bowling and Billiards stock also has two holes, same size.

                  Kurt
                  As the late Turner Kirkland was fond of saying, "If you want good oats, you have to pay the price. If you'll take oats that have already been through the horse, those come cheaper."

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                  • bigskybound
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 206

                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckindenver
                    repro C stocks have an extra hole..this hole was likely used during the cutting..and has nothing to do with the stock itself
                    Hmmm? Both holes are of uniform size and similar depth, which does not seem to be what I would expect for a milling hole. I do not believe it is a repro stock for a couple of reasons. The gun was "dirty" when I bought it. Meaning lots of storage debris, dust, etc. along wood to metal areas. The two holes had some tiny bits of oily string and other small debris inside. Of course, I really do not have enough hands-on experience with these critters to know for sure, but having handled lots of antique and vintage rifles ......I think the lightning cut described by jgaynor is what I have.
                    Last edited by bigskybound; 08-20-2013, 12:18.

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                    • chuckindenver
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3005

                      #11
                      pictures are worth a thousand words
                      if it aint broke...fix it till it finally is.

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                      • bigskybound
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 206

                        #12
                        Here are two.
                        Attached Files

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                        • Fred
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4977

                          #13
                          Every 03 stock that I've owned has had both of those holes in the butt. Looks legit to me.

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                          • Rick the Librarian
                            Super Moderator
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6700

                            #14
                            Me, too.
                            "We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst."
                            --C.S. Lewis

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                            • bigskybound
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 206

                              #15
                              Now I have to find a way to fix and stabilize that crack without overly buggering the finish.

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